Onward Nation

America's best podcast for learning how today's top business owners Think, Act, and Achieve. Onward Nation is a five-day-a-week podcast hosted by Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI. Business owners share the most influential lessons learned throughout their careers, including insights into their daily habits, their most vital priorities that have contributed to their business and personal success, and the most challenging time or situation that could have devastated or even ruined their businesses or careers. Business owners share their "recipes for success" including those systems they wish they had put into practice inside their business when first starting out. Each episode concludes with guests sharing two or three practical and tactical strategies they would recommend to brand new business owners in order to best ensure success in their new business and careers. Onward Nation provides business owners with the strategies and tactical step-by-step "recipe" that will help anyone make their business more systematic, predictable, measurable, and repeatable.
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Mar 14, 2018

Good Morning...I’m Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI and host of Onward Nation – and I’d like to welcome you to Episode 705...this week’s solocast.

In case you’re new to Onward Nation...a solocast is where you and I take a deep dive into a topic...just you and me...without a guest.

And this one-on-one opportunity provides the necessary time to really explore a topic with some depth. And during a solocast, I typically share my point-of-view – when relevant – on trends my team and I are watching play out with business owners every day in the marketplace.

Or, I may share the most important lessons I am learning during conversations with other owners either during our Onward Nation episodes – sometimes during the recording or behind-the-green-curtain discussion I get to have – or – when I am out on the road teaching at conferences, or the new tools and tech I am learning about during mastermind sessions, or weekly check-ins with my accountability partners.

So these solocasts are the place where I can share all of these points with you – and hopefully – I am able to share them in a practical and tactical way that the information and ideas serve you, your team, and overall, are helpful as you work toward building and scaling your business.

So for today...I am going to explain why I believe so strongly that “voice” represents that next opportunity – that next patch of fertile ground – for significant business development.

What’s Voice?

Let’s start off with some context around the word “voice” and what it covers. And then we will dive deeper into what, in my opinion, likely represent three of the most significant business development opportunities for you as it relates to voice – and how you and your team can win if you were to add a voice-centric strategy to your overall biz dev plan.

Okay, so what do I mean when I say “voice” and why does it matter?

The term “voice” today is being used to essentially encapsulate all voice-activated or operated devices, apps, and Internet of Things accessories that you may have in your home or office. So for example, if part of your daily routine while you’re coffee is brewing is to say, “Hey Alexa, give me my flash briefing,” you are using voice to get information.

Or, maybe part of your daily routine is to say, “Hey Google...dim the kitchen lights to 50 percent,” you are using a voice command to get a desired result.

Or, let’s say you are working on a research report and you grab your iPhone X and say, “Hey Siri...what is the 52-week high for Disney stock,” you are using voice to pull data from a search engine.  

Or, maybe you want to listen to your favorite podcast and you say, “Hey Alexa, play the Onward Nation Podcast,” and the most recent episode begins playing.

And over the last couple of years, we have seen a real proliferation of voice-controlled devices or VCD for the point that we are seeing a category emerge with a real acronym...VCD...voice controlled devices. And we as consumers are responding and voting with our wallets.

To help illustrate this...I want to share some of the trends and data points we are watching really closely here at Predictive ROI.

According to Techcrunch...the Echo Dot was the best-selling product on all of Amazon during the 2017 holiday season.

Amazon did not release the actual number sold, but they did confirm for Techcrunch that tens of millions were sold.

According to comScore...the number of U.S. households with smart speakers grew by 49 percent from June to November 2017. And smart speakers currently consist of Amazon Echo, Google Home, Apple HomePod, and others. Amazon Echo continues to be the market share leader but Google Home is gaining ground quickly.

Here’s a market share estimate that shows Amazon with 88 percent market share in 2016. Their share dropped to 52 percent in 2017.


It is also important to realize that the overall market is exploding and that Amazon is still selling millions of Echos – and – from an software perspective...Amazon provides buyers with a library of over 30,000 Alexa Skills that can be verbally installed so that Alexa can perform certain tasks for you, as compared to Google Home’s library of less than 1,000.

But, Google’s major advantage is its dominance in search. Right now, when you ask Alexa to search for something online, she is only able to search the topic using Wikipedia, which is not as comprehensive as using Google, which comes native as part of Google Home.

This provides Google with a huge advantage to penetrate more and more areas of our home.

A results of a recent Google survey estimated that 72 percent of people who own a voice-activated speaker say that their devices are often used as part of their daily routine.

But the market share competition for voice controlled devices is not being waged just by Amazon, Google, and Apple. Samsung is expected to get into the smart speaker space – and according to Forbes, Spotify has been rumored to be preparing the release of their smart speaker.

And, Spotify is about to conduct a $1 billion initial public offering for their stock, so the stakes are high that they execute their products strategy carefully so they can diversify revenue beyond being a music subscription service – otherwise – the company would not be worthy of such a lofty valuation.

So let’s shift our attention away from devices and think about search and how we as consumers are being to use search engines to find what we need.

According to Branded3 and data collected from IBM, 25 percent of searches on Windows 10 taskbar are voice.

According to a report in Search Engine People, 20 percent of mobile searches on Google are made via voice command. And according to comScore, 55 percent of teens and 41 percent of adults already execute voice searches multiple times per day, and the forecast is that by 2020, 50 percent of all searches will be via voice.

Onward Nation, I have even read reports predicting that by 2022, our computers will no longer come with keyboards because your laptop will essentially become a voice controlled device.

It blows my mind to think about that – but – the data does seem to point in that direction.

And what about podcasting as part of growth – is it still a growing category? And I get the fact that for me to have a bullish voice in this area makes me seem let me share some data from Edison Research.

They are the leaders in collecting and sharing the growth related data in their annual report, which you can download here.

Podcasting...even though it may seem like it is exploding right the growing at a slow and steady clip. There does not seem to be a podcasting bubble – instead – the data seems to indicate that there is some significant upside potential and we are just beginning to scratch the surface as more and more listening channels come online making the content that much more accessible.

24 percent of Americans have listened to a podcast in the last month – up from 21 percent 12 months ago.

And 40 percent of Americans have ever listened to a podcast...up from 36 percent 12 months ago.

The awareness of the term podcasting increased to 60% up from 55 percent 12 months ago.

And 15% of Americans said that they listen to podcasts on weekly basis up from 13 percent 12 months ago.

See what I mean?

Slow and steady growth – even though – sometimes it can feel like every business owner on the planet has podcast and everyone is listening...the reality is not that.

In fact, there are only a few podcasts – there is a lot of room in the market especially for really good content – and there is still a lot of blue ocean out there with growth potential.

And we are seeing this steady growth as smart phones become more and more sophisticated, podcasters are developing their own apps so their audiences can find their content with just one tap or click, and their continues to be a proliferation of channels where the content can be accessed.

For example, when we launched Onward Nation on June 15, 2015...705 episodes ago – yay! – you would have been able to listen to our episodes on iTunes, Stitcher, and our website.

That was it. can listen to our episodes on iTunes and Stitcher as well as Amazon Echo by asking Alexa, you can find us on Spotify, on CastBox, on iHeart Radio, and on Google Play. And I am sure we will see more and more channels come online as the competition for subscribers and downloads continue.

Lastly...we are also seeing large brands beginning to make significant investments in voice as part of their overall marketing strategy.

According to AdAge, and what might be an industry first, JPMorgan Chase recently appointed VaynerMedia as its agency of record for “voice marketing” as the financial services giant looks to amplify its strategy around the nascent practice.

Onward Nation, there are a number of reasons why I think this news is significant – but most of all – brands have been resisting for years and years the naming of an agency of record for any part of their business.

Because awarding an agency with that title anoints them with a high level authority – certainly at the strategy level – above all other agencies. It is typically reserved for something very significant – and it is rarely used in today’s advertising world.

Instead, brands are breaking up with agencies, slicing and dicing responsibilities across many agencies where they think they can get the best pricing, etc.

So for JPMorgan Chase to make the bold move toward voice and to do it such a way that named Gary and his team as the agency of record – is huge.

Huge kudos to Gary – major win. We are definitely witnessing the fulfillment of some of the predictions he made during Episode 42 of Onward Nation.

Okay, let’s bring this full circle...all of this combined is why I firmly believe that the momentum we are experiencing around podcasting – and more macro – what we are experiencing around voice – is just the tip of the iceberg and all of this exciting momentum represents a myriad of opportunities for you and your team to plant your business development flag.

So let’s take a look at four business development strategies that in my opinion, you and your team should seriously consider. These are not pie-in-the-sky ideas that you might be able to implement if we go keyboard-less computers in 5-years.

Strategy #1: Launch a podcast

Hosting your own podcast is an exceptional opportunity for you share your point-of-view with your customers and prospects, to be helpful to them as they work hard to grow their businesses, and to grow your audience and influence. Once you launch your sure to get your content into all of the major distribution channels like Spotify, Alexa, CastBox, iTunes, Google Play, iHeart Radio, Soundcloud and the myriad of other channels were podcasts live today.

If you want a complete list of what we consider to be the big ones...go to and click on “Podcast” and you will see a long list down the right side of the site with links to each channel.

A podcast will also provide you with numerous monetization opportunities from developing business relationships with your guests, to promoting products and services to your audience, selling sponsorships to third party brands who want to pay you to access your audience and many more.

If you’re consider launching a podcast – or some other form of cornerstone content – I highly recommend going back to Episodes 676 and 659 so you and your team can refer to all of the step-by-step tactical plans I included in each episode for creating and monetizing your cornerstone content.

Strategy #2: Launch an Alexa Skill or Flash Briefing

Okay, once your podcast is launched, and your episodes are available on Amazon Echo via Alexa voice commands, then I recommend you give some serious thought to building your own Alexa Skill or Flash Briefing.

At the time of this recording, we are about 2 weeks away from launching a beta version of our Predictive ROI flash briefing where we will provide helpful insights from our guests that were not aired during their actual episode – a collection of behind-the-green-curtain conversations – and the daily Flash Briefing would be the perfect channel for sharing that super exclusive content.

In addition, we may also include research points, the answers to FAQs, and other ways we can be helpful to business owners who may be looking for resources on how to gain clarity around their point of view and use cornerstone content to share their thoughts and wisdom with a larger audience.

A key point for you to consider as you map out your Alexa strategy is that Alexa can do more than just straight responses to specific questions. Alexa can also be configured to access and pull data from sources like Google Analytics – all of which is possible by making the correct API calls.


If you log into your Amazon account, you will be able to access the Alexa Skills Kit so you and your team can begin reviewing all of the technical specifications involved in the process.

One of the most interesting features for Alexa Skills is how you can require that someone who enables the skill – also “links” their account. Which means they have to accept granting linkage to their Facebook account which then you as the marketer have access to their email address and Facebook messenger.

So...if you build a rockin’ awesome Alexa Skill, it can not only help you be helpful to your audience – but – the Skill can also build your email list.


Strategy #3: Convert your blog into audio content

Say you are struggling to think of how you might host a podcast – or – the thought of you interviewing your dream prospects as guest makes you uncomfortable – but – you also recognize the power of voice and you happen to have a rockin’ awesome blog that you have spent the last several years building out.

Wonderful. Enter...Voxsnap.

Voxsnap is a recently launched service where you can provide them access to your written content – and they will convert it into audio files for you. Voxsnap has a stable of professional voice actors who will read and record your blog content and then give you back a professional sounding mp3 file of your content that you can then share via iTunes, etc...all of the podcasting channels we discussed earlier.

So if writing is your preferred way to create cornerstone content, and you are uncomfortable with the thought of recording audio, continue writing with excellent and then leverage the power of voice through Voxsnap.

Strategy #4: Optimize your content for voice search

And lastly, you and your team need to get up to speed with the changes voice is having on search engine optimization. I mentioned earlier how comScore predicts that nearly 50 percent of all searches in just a few short years will be voice activated – and that means we need to create different content – and serve it up to Google differently if we want to continue driving organic traffic to our websites.

And with voice search...there seems to be one vital priority at the moment and that is to create and optimize content so that it is worthy of becoming the “Featured Snippet” in the search results.

The featured snippet is the content that is ranked so high in the search results that Google tends to put it inside a box and it is typically the answer to a question you may have asked when searching.

So why is the featured snippet so important to voice? Because Google tends to highlight featured snippets in the voice search results and read them to you audibly.

So, if you score a featured snippet ranking for your content – you will not only be served up to searches who are using Google the traditional way – but you will also be served up first to voice searches and your content will be shared with them audibly.

Come cool is that, Onward Nation? do you score a featured snippet ranking? Well, I will likely dedicated a future solocast just to this topic because as you might imagine – it is a deep one all by itself.

But for now...I will share several quick guidelines.

First, you need to begin creating content for your website that is focused on answering “what,” “how,” or “why” questions from searchers. “What” your product or service does, “how” your team solves problems, and “why” you and your team believe so strongly in supporting the industry through your annual research report on trends, etc.

So you need to think creatively about matching your content with the intent of voice search so that they sync up.

Second, Google has shared data about how searchers who are using voice are also using long keyword strings – or what is often referred to as long-tail keywords. Gone are the days of someone going to Google and searching for a single keyword but instead of searching for a solution to a problem.

For example...the deep dive solocast that I record that will focus on voice search might be entitled: “Okay Google, how do I optimize my website for voice search?”

Because I will want anyone who is struggling with that topic to find my solocast.

So you need to think of your keywords from a long-tail perspective but also from a question and answer or solution perspective.

And third, I would highly recommend you and your team doing some research and testing using – often referred to as Structured Data. With Structured Data, you will have more opportunities to tell Google, Bing, etc. what your content page contains – to label it – identify it and to make it easier for them to index and rank.

Recent studies have shown that of all the content pages in the same that were ranked by Google with a featured snippet, over 40 percent of the pages were using Structured Data as part of their optimization recipe.

Again, I will record a separate solocast on voice search engine optimization to share all of our steps in full transparency – but for now – if you and your team begin reviewing your content from the perspective of those three areas, you will likely be ahead of 95 percent of your competition.

Okay, there is one final reason why I am urging you to immediately consider voice as part of your business development strategy.

Because if you truly want to be a thought leader – and you want to leverage your thought leadership so that it serves you in attracting new clients as I have shared with you in past solocasts, then you cannot be a one trick pony.

Here’s a quick video snippet about why I think that is the case.

Your content cannot just be available on your blog...or just your YouTube channel...or just your podcast...or your latest book. Your content needs to be available across multiple channels and you reaching your audience and being helpful in multiple ways...and voice gives you that exceptional opportunity.

With have the opportunity to no longer be a one-trick pony.

With voice, you can create new content and then transform it into written content.

Now, with the launch of Voxsnap, you have the opportunity to take your written content and transform it into voice.

There is so much opportunity today to take one piece of cornerstone content and to transform it into many different spokes – and unfortunately – if you are not doing that – you are missing out on significant business development opportunities.

So with that said...I want to say thank you, Onward Nation – thank you for taking time to be here – thank you for sharing your feedback, opinions, and insights with us for over 700 episodes.

Please know – I appreciate your time and attention so very much – thank you for helping us get better each and every day.

And I am thrilled that we crossed another milestone with 700 episodes – and that feels wonderful – but I think we are just scratching the surface in how we look to serve you the best going forward this year.

I wish you a wonderful rest of your week and look forward to having you back tomorrow for another great interview with one of today’s top business owners.

Until then...onward with gusto!


Mar 13, 2018

Our special encore guest today is Thor Conklin. He is an entrepreneur, profitability consultant, and host of his daily podcast, Peak Performers. The first company he created was a global risk management consulting firm that served the private equity community. His top 15 clients had a combined revenue of $12.7 billion and operated in over 100 countries worldwide. may remember Thor and the wisdom he shared during Episode 493. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 493 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why you should constantly evaluate your peer groups
  • The importance of surrounding yourself with mentors that are accomplishing amazing things
  • Why you don’t need to learn more, you just need to do what you know
  • The lesson of “just start” and why your product or service will improve over time
  • Why consistency is the key to improving and honing your business
  • How having a vision for your life can help you define success
  • Overcoming fear with the strategy of “1-2-3 - Go”
  • The importance of pushing and keeping momentum going within your business
  • What characteristics do you need to become a great mentor
  • The need for a highly visible scorecard of your business

Ways to contact Thor:


Mar 12, 2018

Russell Whitney is an entrepreneur, philanthropist, and a recognized worldwide leader in the business, real estate investment, and financial training fields. Over the past 15-years, he has traveled the world speaking to audiences and has spoken alongside luminaries including Robert Kiyosaki and Tony Robbins always spreading his message of how to take immediate action to achieve financial goals and dreams by following his easy-to-follow, step-by-step process. It was during that time he met his success coach, mentor, and eventual business partner, Kevin Harrington, one of the original sharks on “Shark Tank.” Today you can find Russell speaking at events all across the country, giving his students the tools, guidance and knowledge they need to be wildly successful in their fields.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The importance of seeking out help and not trying to do it all on your own
  • How seeking out coaching and mentoring can help shortcut your process
  • Why you should always be transparent in life and business
  • How meditation and prayer can be beneficial daily habits
  • The value of goal planning each day
  • Why you should make a “not” to do list
  • Selling is important, but marketing is a critical skill to master
  • Why you should seek to hire people who are smarter than you in your business
  • The importance of hiring and paying for quality people
  • Why you should always try to set your employees up for success

Ways to contact Russell:


Mar 9, 2018

Our special encore guest today is Daina Middleton. She is the CEO of a leading national to local marketing company, Ansira. Prior to heading up Ansira, Daina served as the head of global business-to-business marketing at Twitter as well as successful leadership positions at Performics, Moxy Interactive, and 16 years at Hewlett Packard. Daina is also the author of two books: “Marketing in the Participation Age” and “Grace Meets Grit.” may remember Daina and the wisdom she shared during Episode 397. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all she shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 397 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why it’s so critical now, more than ever, to brand to local space
  • Why you need to have both a local and a national brand relationship with your customers
  • How your mindset has such an impact on your influence potential
  • Why, as a leader, it’s about empowering others…not about having power over others
  • Why Daina believes that success is about the everyday journey - not just about the end outcome
  • Why it’s more important how you recover from mistakes rather than how you make them
  • Why it’s essential to recognize the type of person that you need for the type of environment or business
  • The value of finding your passion and authentic voice
  • The importance of continually transforming your company

How best to connect with Daina:


Mar 8, 2018

Brandon Bruce is the chief operating officer and co-founder of Cirrus — an all-in-one sales productivity platform that connects Gmail and Outlook with Salesforce. Since launching the business in 2011, the company has grown to $12 million in annual revenue, 65 employees, and was ranked #41 on the Inc. 500 list of fastest-growing companies in 2016.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Focusing on your customers: the key to getting any business off the ground
  • How starting a business is like an endurance sport rather than a sprint
  • The importance of looking towards and planning for the future to ensure you are prepared for changes when they arise
  • How entrepreneurs are able to pursue many different interests within their business
  • Why reading is an important daily habit
  • How daily exercise can help clear your mind and stimulate new ideas
  • Focusing on the right things first: an important skill to master
  • The importance of making decisions quickly
  • The influential lesson of meeting with anyone, anywhere, at anytime
  • Why the number one strategy to ensure success is sell first

Ways to contact Brandon:


Mar 7, 2018

Our special encore guest today is Kathy Kolbe. She is the global leader in discovering and accessing the power of human instincts. She is an acclaimed theorist, bestselling author, entrepreneur, educator, organizational strategist, consultant and speaker, and is the founder of Kolbe Corp and Dynamynd, Inc. may remember Kathy and the wisdom she shared during Episode 466. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all she shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 466 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • How OPgig can help guide individuals into careers suited for who they are
  • How OPgig can show you which jobs are available in your area that are suited to you
  • The negative consequences of working with others who work and think like we do
  • The importance knowing who we are and valuing our own abilities
  • The value of seeking people who have differing abilities than our own to work with
  • The pitfalls of the narrow-minded thinking of today and why it needs to be changed
  • Why Kathy feels the definition of success is the freedom to be yourself
  • The need to work together through all our differences
  • The benefits to working with others who share your values

Ways to contact Kathy:

Mar 6, 2018

Our special encore guest today is Bill Jelen and he is the host of and the author of 54 books about Microsoft Excel including “Excel Gurus Gone Wild”, “Pivot Table Data Crunching”, “Power Pivot Alchemy” and “MrExcel Live”. Before founding in 1998, Jelen spent 12-years “in the trenches”, as a financial analyst for the accounting, finance, marketing, and operations departments of a publicly held company. Since then, his company automates Excel reports for hundreds of clients around the world. The website answers over 30,000 questions a year for free for readers all over the world. You may remember Bill and the wisdom he shared during Episode 131. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 131 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • How to stay focused on your goals by avoiding distractions
  • The benefits of tackling your most important tasks first
  • The value of taking cornerstone content and repurposing it for other platforms
  • Using keywords within YouTube to bring people to your site
  • How you can build your business by being an expert in a particular field
  • How answering questions on can benefit your business
  • The differences between having your book self-published or using a publisher
  • How being genuine in your efforts to help people rather than sell can lead to a successful business
  • The benefits of a book distributor when self-publishing a book
  • The importance of loving and having fun with what you are doing

Ways to contact Bill:

Mar 5, 2018

Andie Kramer is an attorney and partner in the international law firm of McDermott Will & Emery where she heads its Financial Products, Trading, and Derivatives Group. She’s an influential voice in her field, praised for her significant contributions to tax policy. Andie was named one of the 50 Most Influential Women Lawyers in America by the National Law Journal and along with her husband, Al Harris, wrote the book Breaking Through Bias – Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why Andie feels it is important to speak and write about how women can overcome gender bias in the workplace
  • The stereotypes women encounter within the workplace
  • The differences between how men and women talk about their accomplishments
  • How businesses can do a better job in avoiding stereotypes and bias
  • Why not watching television can make your success more efficient and effective
  • The benefits of having a coping sense of humor in challenging situations
  • The importance of having a sense of flexibility while staying focused on your objective
  • Why focusing on the care and feeding of your team is an important part of building your business
  • The importance of developing a sense of confidence
  • Why writing down a time when you felt strong or powerful can be beneficial

Ways to contact Andie:

Mar 2, 2018

Today’s episode is going to be different from any other -- in fact -- it is fair to say that today’s episode will be another powerful lesson on how outward success is an inside job. Our special encore guest today is Bobby Albert and he is the CEO and President of Values-Driven Leadership, LLC, which is focused on teaching others the growth enabling potential of building foundational values into company culture. He is also author of the book “Principled Profits — Outward Success Is an Inside Job,” where he pinpoints specific, time-tested principles that can supercharge any enterprise. You may remember Bobby and the wisdom he shared during Episode 399. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 399 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The benefits of having a mindset to simply make a difference every day
  • Confidence, contentment, and courage: three ways to define success
  • How to become a more effective leader by focusing on relationships and results
  • The benefits of having an abundance mindset versus a scarcity mindset
  • Why discovering your core values is a process, not an event
  • Why core values are determined by the owner, not the leadership committee
  • The difference between aspirational values and authentic values
  • Becoming a better mentor by learning to ask high quality discovery questions
  • The importance of having an owner that is open to change
  • The positive outcomes of you as the business owner growing in your core values

Ways to contact Bobby:

Mar 1, 2018

Today’s episode is going to be different from any other -- in fact -- it is fair to say that today’s episode will be another powerful lesson on why you shouldn’t try to be everything to everybody. Our special encore guest today is Bobby Klinck and he is an online entrepreneur and intellectual property attorney. He helps businesses, innovators and entrepreneurs harness the power of their intellectual property rights. He is also the founder of Your Online Genius, LLC, which helps entrepreneurs protect their online businesses by giving them access to the information and resources they need. You may remember Bobby and the wisdom he shared during Episode 498. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 498 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The basic legal protections all business owners need to have done
  • The importance of speaking with a CPA when setting up your business
  • Why every important agreement in your business needs to be in writing
  • The need to do a trademark search when naming your business
  • How to protect your confidential information
  • What website documents businesses need to have in order
  • How to keep your business moving forward by avoiding procrastination
  • What Bobby describes as the three pillars of success
  • How to become a better mentor to others
  • The importance of always reading and learning

Ways to contact Bobby:

Feb 28, 2018

Good Morning, I’m Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI and your host for Onward Nation.

Welcome to Episode 695 – this week’s solocast.

I greatly appreciate your time and am grateful that you decided to share some of your precious 86,400 seconds that you have today with me – thank you, Onward Nation.

Before we dive into how to recognize and solve what may be the two biggest challenges or obstacles to scaling your business...I want to provide some additional context as to why I chose this topic for our time together today.

You might recall that in Episode and I took a deep dive into the Imposter Syndrome.

We defined it and then sliced apart the Syndrome’s two main ingredients so you could recognize it whenever it rises up to block you on your path to success.

However, when I went back through my notes for Episode 685 and re-listened to the content...I realized that the ingredients I shared were a bit incomplete because they weren’t part of a more comprehensive recipe including more ingredients and a series of action steps.

And that comprehensive recipe is what we are going to cover today.

So if you haven’t listened to Episode 685 yet – I encourage you to go back and review it so you have the full context from beginning to end.

Being armed with both episodes will help you solve what may be the biggest challenges or obstacles in your business -- those things that are really holding you back from jumping off the plateau you may be on right now – and leaping onward to that next level.

So here’s what we will cover today...

First, I will show you how to spot the two biggest obstacles currently preventing you from moving your business onward to the next level.

Second, I will show you how to attract the right mentors to help you overcome the obstacles and accelerate your results.

Third, I will show you how to implement and master a specific system that will dramatically expand your network and sphere of influence.

Sound good, Onward Nation? Okay...let’s dive in.

What if I told you that the two biggest challenges preventing you from moving your business onward to the next level have nothing to do with the business climate, the economy, the skill level of your employees, the location of your business, your pricing strategy, your current customer base, the size of your marketing budget, the quality of your products, your distribution channels, or the myriad of other reasons we are given today by the media and government as to why businesses fail at such a staggering rate in this country?

What if the obstacles in your way had nothing to do with any of that?

And in instead, what was blocking you…the obstacles keeping your business in check…are the same obstacles that have always attempted to keep you in check throughout your entire life.

Your enemy is not the myriad of reasons I just listed…instead…your first challenge…or better yet…your first enemy is the Fear of Poverty.

And yes, there is a correlation to the Imposter Syndrome – you may recall that in Episode 685 when we dissected the syndrome into its most basic form...we could see that it was just fear.

So now...I want us to dissect fear into a couple of smaller ingredients so we can have an even clearer view.

And for that...let’s go back to 1937 and into the pages of the brilliant work by Napoleon Hill, “Think and Grow Rich.” The book sold over 70 million copies worldwide because it is such a compendium of knowledge.

The book was made possible by Andrew Carnegie.

Carnegie at the time was the wealthiest man in the world, met Napoleon Hill, liked him and offered to commission him to open the doors to the greatest industrialists of the time.

That was 1908.

And he said, “I’ll open the doors if you’ll sit down with these top business owners and figure out their secrets to success. What they do, their methods, their mindsets that have caused their extraordinary success and you put it into a book and publish it and make it available to the world.”

So, Napoleon sat down with Henry Ford, Edison, Schwab, Wrigley, and both Rockefellers.

Imagine being able to spend time with those business owners and pull out their best ideas for success and achievement.

If you have read, studied, and applied the book…you understand the great knowledge in this book and are already ahead of 98% of your competition.

But often times…this book is an easy to forget treasure because it was written in 1937 – but the strategies in this book are still just as applicable today.

If you have not yet read, studied, and applied the book – then consider this a million dollar resource you have just been given. You can go to and get the Audible version of Think and Grow Rich for free…that’s

The Fear of Poverty is one of the 6 basic fears but it is also the most pervasive, destructive, and confusing to understand.

But why?

On the surface, it seems as though this fear would revolve around the fear of becoming poor – and there definitely is that component.

But, the way this particular fear manifests itself is what makes it easy to spot.

We become so fearful of poverty…that we freeze and are plagued with indecision, indifference, doubt, worry, over-caution, and procrastination.

Just when you ought to take action…you don’t.

When sales are declining…you ought to make more sales calls…but you don’t…we sometimes freeze because the fear of poverty may hold us hostage and keep us from moving forward.

Just when you should be investing in that new expansion – that new marketing strategy – that new development – hiring new employees – you don’t.

You become overly cautious. Or…you disguise your caution by saying you’re “skeptical”. Which is a more pleasant way of saying, “I am afraid.”

You become so fearful of hitting the wall – that all you do is focus on the wall.

And then what happens?

Exactly…you end up hitting the wall.

To be clear…I am not suggesting that you throw caution to the wind and become financially irresponsible and then lose your business as a result of mismanagement.

That would be silly.

But I am trying to bring into focus that our Fear of Poverty can be one of the major obstacles that hold us back from the abundance at that next level.

And it doesn’t matter who you are – we have all felt it before – especially when trying to pursue something new – that next level.

Remember, if you focus on the wall…you will hit the wall.

But if you focus on the infield – you may still eventually hit the wall…but your opportunity likely increases by a factor of 10 IF you steer your business where you want it to go instead of letting yourself and your business become paralyzed by indecision, indifference, doubt, worry, over-caution, and procrastination.

So if the Fear of Poverty is the first challenge – what is the second one keeping you from moving your business forward?

It is the Fear of Criticism and is also one of the 6 basic fears…and it too is easy to spot.

This fear what prevents you from making that sales call to that prospective client everyone in town wants because you hear that voice inside your head that says…

“Oh come on…who do you think you’re kidding calling them? You have nothing to offer. They only work with big companies. You’re too small.”

You hear… “You’re not good enough…you don’t have the skills, you will never make it…why bother trying…there are others who are more gifted, talented, they already have all the connections…what could you possibly offer that would be unique and different…just try something that is more at your current level – call on someone smaller – don’t call the president or owner – call someone who reports to them – that would be easier.”

“Why can’t you just be normal?”

The fear of criticism can be overcome with grit…with tenacity…with perseverance…with the shouting into the abyss…I will not be defeated.

You saying… “I will WIN THE DAY”.

And when you do that – and I believe when you’re moving in the direction of God’s plan for your life – there is nothing that can stop you.

Now that we have identified the 2 biggest obstacles holding you back – which really aren’t obstacles at all are they – they all are in your mind – now let’s work through our first recipe.


If you have listened to our Onward Nation episodes, you already know that I ask every single guest to share the most influential lesson they ever learned from one of their mentors that helped them become the business owner they are today.

And wow…our guests have shared some outstanding lessons.

So for this solocast, I am going to share a very specific recipe for attracting and finding the right mentor.

But let’s make this more specific.

Why find a mentor?

And yes, there is a specific recipe you can use to find a mentor and I am going to share that with you.

Before I share the step-by-step ingredients to this powerful recipe…I will share two of the most influential lessons I ever learned from one of my mentors…Darren Hardy, publisher of SUCCESS Magazine.

For 12-months, Darren was a member of our board of advisors at Predictive ROI. So we would get together either in-person or over the phone. And during one of our monthly calls, I explained to Darren some of my reservations about building a big business.

I wasn’t sure how big I wanted Predictive ROI to become. And so I was nervous about it.

And I said, “Gosh, Darren – you know – I’ve never thought of myself as being a great manager of people. And quite frankly, honestly Darren, I kind of suck at it.”

And then Darren said to me, “Stephen…stop SUCKING at it!”

And I said, “What do you mean?”

And he said… “Don’t give me that lie or tell me that myth that you are telling yourself. Don’t use that as a frickin’ excuse to stop moving forward. Stop telling yourself that limiting belief and that lie that you’re not a good manager or leader. Be better at it. Don’t give me the excuse.”

And so I’m standing there almost like totally stripped down – I was like, my word, he just totally called me on it right.

It was embarrassing – because Darren’s assessment was spot on, Onward Nation!

And that’s what a good mentor does for you – they call you out when you need to be called out – they support you when you need to be supported and they teach you when you need to be taught.

But they don’t do the hard work for you – that’s on you.

So here are the specific 11 ingredients for finding the right mentor for you:

Think about your own talents and skills you would like to strengthen — weaknesses you would like to lessen — areas of your business you would like to improve, etc.

Then make a precise list that details everything you just thought about.

This process helps you identify the person you need to become in order to move your business onward to the next level

This is a really hard exercise because you have to force yourself to take a critical look at yourself (and by the way — most people are not willing to get really honest with themselves — and that is one of the major reasons they never grow)

Once you have the list — look for people who are crushing it in these areas — the same areas where you need to grow.

Then contact those people — invite them to lunch — let them know you are packed full of questions for them

Be very prepared — they will love that

Interview them and put what they share with you into practice — turn it into a blog post and your clients will love you for it

Loop back to your mentors and share your success

When you do, they will invite you to sit down so they can share more with you.

Soak it all up — then put it into practice.

Remember…a good mentee takes action on what is learned — and the responsibility is on you.

Here’s the reality, Onward Nation…you are the average of who you spend the most time with as Jim Rohn so brilliantly shared decades ago.

So you need to spend your time with people you have a common future with – not a common past.

Let me close out this first recipe by saying…you can want to find a mentor – the recipe that I just shared with you could be worth millions of dollars in new sales to your company – but – it won’t be worth anything unless you DECIDE to take action.

As Tony Robbins says, a real decision is measured by the fact that you’ve taken action – in fact – that you have taken massive action. And if there’s no action – then that is simply an indicator you haven’t really decided anything.

Now that we have conquered and overcome the two main challenges standing in your way – and now that I have shared with you a very specific recipe with all of the step-by-step ingredients (in the proper syntax) so you can find your right mentor or mentors…it is now time to really accelerate your results and move your business onward to the next level.


The next recipe I am going to share with you could represent a billion – yes, with a “B” – billion dollar strategy for your business.

I am going to share a recipe for mastering a specific system that will dramatically expand your network and sphere of influence – and – I will also share with you how you can then monetize these valuable relationships into mutually beneficial partnerships and revenue for your business.

And yes, I know it may sound crass or inappropriate when I say monetize relationships – unfortunately, I can’t think of a better word – I think you get what I am driving at.

But before we get to the recipe…let me put typical “networking” into context.

Most business owners go to an event with a large number of “prospects”.

They pass out business cards.

They chit chat small talk with the same people they met their last month.

They collect others business cards.

More chit chat and participate in some more small talk.

They might even schedule some lunch meetings.

Why do we do this?

Here’s why.

Because it is safe. It is easy. It does not put us out there or force us to face our fear of poverty or our fear of criticism.

We begin to ask ourselves several horrible questions like we discussed in Episode 685. Questions like... “What would people think if I did this or that…or spent time with so and so?”

I am going to work hard here to shift your paradigm and perspective of what is possible, Onward Nation.

And that is why I love this quote from Archimedes. “Give me a prop strong enough, and a lever long enough, and I can single-handedly move the world

This next recipe I am about to share with you will become your lever and your prop.

And it is big – this is literally a billion dollar recipe – and I am going to introduce you to the top business owner who is using it generate a billion dollars.

She describes herself as a billionaire in the making and her name is Stacey Alcorn, our brilliant guest for Episode 3 of Onward Nation.

During our interview, one of the stories Stacey shared was about the afternoon she had spent with Kevin O’Leary, Mr. Wonderful from ABC’s Shark Tank. They spent the afternoon tasting wine and exchanging business mantras and best lessons. As you might imagine, Stacey and Kevin had quite the masterminding session.

There is always a strategy behind what Stacey does – and if you go back and re-listen to Episode 3, you will hear her map out her entire biz dev strategy with precision.

But, let’s review one of the golden nuggets from that conversation – Stacey’s billion-dollar biz dev strategy and it revolves around swing for the fences with respect to the relationships you are seeking to develop.

Most people will not swing for the fences – but Stacey does. And your ability to be bold with this biz dev strategy is the first ingredient and key to your success.

So here are the other 9 ingredients in Stacey’s biz dev recipe.

  1. Make list of influencers in your industry and / or your Dream 50 clients / prospects
  2. Connect via social media, email, or call
  3. Ask for 30-minutes so you can interview them on their path / keys to success
  4. Do your homework – prep excellent questions
  5. Be excellent during the interview
  6. Briefly share what you and your company does at the close of interview
  7. Invite / open the door for future opportunities
  8. Then share guest’s expertise on your blog, media outlets, your podcast, etc. – your platform
  9. Rinse and repeat – rinse and repeat

And here is another key benefit to this strategy, Onward Nation. If you interview the movers and shakers in your industry – they become your informal mentors…and you become one of the movers and shakers in the industry as a result.

If you want a BIGGER – more ROBUST – more INFLUENTIAL network – then YOU must become bigger…your platform must become more robust…and you must become more influential.

But – let me also share a WARNING or a potential ROADBLOCK with you.

You might be thinking – “Sounds awesome, Stephen…but Stacey has an email list of 65,000 people and has interviewed all of these celebrities and big-time business people – I don’t have those connections.”

Or, maybe you’re thinking… “My business just started…I don’t have mindshare in the marketplace, I’m not a published author, I don’t have a platform, no one knows who I am, who will listen to me – what do I have or could I share that would be relevant for anyone to listen to, I don’t have a network – I wouldn’t even know how to start.

I get it, Onward Nation. Honest I do. I asked myself those same questions when I sent out my initial invitations for guests to join me for an interview. I thought, “Who am I to send an invitation to these incredible people? Why on Earth would they say yes to me?”

And yet...they did. And in the process of receiving the yeses – I realized that what I was doing was making excuses. I was allowing the Fear of Poverty and the Fear of Criticism to work against me, Onward Nation.

Please don’t allow that to happen to you.

If you hear those voices in your head – if you are having thoughts that are even remotely similar to what I just mentioned – let that be your litmus test – you now know you are heading in the right direction.

Push forward – don’t stop – don’t let your fear hold you back from breaking through to that next level.

Remember, you are the average of the people you spend the most time with…and look who Stacey is spending the most time with.

She refers to herself as “A billionaire in the making.” And in order for that vision for her life to become a reality – she knows that she needs to spend as much time as possible with other billionaires.

Well, I will let you in on a secret she told me during our interview – Stacey didn’t have those connections several years ago.

But she decided to change her circumstance – her current network and then took action to make it happen.

And I know you can too.

Okay, Onward Nation – so with that said...I just want to say thank you again. I greatly appreciate your time, I greatly appreciate all of your feedback, and I am grateful that you decided to share with me some of your precious 86,400 seconds you have today.

Please know – I always look forward to your feedback. You can reach me at, on LinkedIn, Twitter, or Facebook. Just drop me a line and let me know what you thought of today’s solocast – thumbs up or thumbs down.

Until tomorrow – onward with gusto!

Feb 27, 2018

Rob Emrich is a serial entrepreneur and the Founder and CEO of Gimbal, which was named the fastest-growing tech company by the Los Angeles Business Journal in 2016 and ranked #66 on the Inc. 5000 list of the fastest-growing private companies in America in 2017. Gimbal is the market leader in the emerging category of physical world marketing automation. The company counts over 10,000 end customers including Ford, Citibank, Walgreens, and other Fortune 500 firms. Rob has been featured in the The New York Times Bestselling book The Lean Entrepreneur & 21 Questions for 21 Millionaires. He has been recognized by the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award and “Forty under 40.”

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why having a strong online presence depends on how efficient your marketing is
  • How marketing successfully and determining ROI can help grow a company quickly
  • How simplifying the supply chain can equal higher ROI to your customers
  • The benefits of using physical world data for marketing purposes
  • How beacons help businesses gather more precise marketing information
  • Why daily habits for some entrepreneurs can be situational depending on where their business is at a particular time
  • The importance of being flexible in your thinking
  • Why comfort with uncertainty is a critical skill for business owners to master
  • How focusing on the objective and not the obstacle will lead to success
  • The value of journaling about three good things that happened in your day

Ways to contact Rob:

Feb 26, 2018

Larry Haas is the Founder and CEO of Global Aperture Inc., a management consulting firm specializing in helping companies transform to achieve their strategic goals in industries such as Aerospace and Defense, Agriculture, Homeland Security, and Nonprofits. Prior to founding Global Aperture, Larry served as a consultant and leader in several organizations including Procter and Gamble, Boeing, and as an officer and program manager in the United States Air Force.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The definition of an “SOS moment”
  • Setting clear priorities for your day: an important daily habit
  • Why you should turn your phone off during your work day
  • Avoiding procrastination on your high priorities
  • Why you should not take criticism or critique from clients personally
  • Being flexible and open in your business
  • The importance of being connected to your customers
  • The influential lesson of “assume any and all authority, not specifically denied”
  • When starting a business, find an enduring need that is growing
  • The importance of finding a mentor in your industry to learn from

Ways to contact Larry:


Feb 23, 2018

Darla Hall is the owner of In the Sports Zone, creating licensed activity books for college, NFL, MLB, NBA and other brands. Her idea started as a gift for a little boy who was struck by a car and suffered two broken legs. She developed the first Roll Tide Activity Book as a gift for him and secured her first license in 2012. He has fully recovered and Darla has grown her business by adding product lines, teams, and leagues each year. She is currently writing a memoir titled, “Ball Cap, Boots, Backflips & Business”, which will be released in 2019.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why focus is hard to accomplish
  • The importance of having a drive and passion for your business
  • How having a daily task list helps keep you focused
  • The benefits of spending 80% of your day on selling
  • How to use social media to build your platform and impact your business
  • Why selling is the most critical skill business owners need to master
  • Why you can’t be afraid of failure when you are trying to build relationships and sell
  • The value of mentors and surrounding yourself with smart people
  • Why you should look at every day as a new slate
  • The need to fight for what you believe in and not to back down

Ways to contact Darla:


Feb 22, 2018

Jeff Hyman is the Chief Talent Officer at Chicago-based Strong Suit Executive Search — whose focus is on recruiting and building rockstar teams for growth companies. He’s recruited over 3,000 people and has advised hundreds of entrepreneurs along the way on the recruitment process — and from that experience — he wrote the book “Hiring Growth Rockstars: The 10 Step Playbook to Find the Winners and Ignite Your Business” to share the lessons he learned. Jeff also hosts the five-star podcast, Strong Suit.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Hiring the very best talent can be what helps your business win in your industry
  • How rockstar employees are up to 10 times more productive and efficient than average employees
  • What happens if you hire 5 rockstar employees but pay them like 8 rockstar employees
  • Why you should not look at hiring employees as an expense
  • The importance of having a compensation philosophy
  • The benefits of not paying top of market prices for an employee
  • How to find a rockstar employee that is the right fit for your business
  • Why setting priorities and being protective of your time each day are important daily habits
  • How purposeful networking can lead to business growth and success
  • Why having candor in your company and learning to have the tough discussions is vital to success

Ways to contact Jeff:


Feb 21, 2018

Good Morning – I’m Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI and your host of Onward Nation. And welcome to Episode 690, which is this week’s solocast.

Before we go behind-the-green-curtain of today’s topic...I want you to know how extremely grateful I am for your time – and I am also grateful that you have chosen this episode to be what you listen to – to study.

Or, maybe you’re taking our podcast with you on your daily commute – or however the lessons we share make their way to you – please know – I am thankful we have become part of your day.

Thank you.

We all have the same 86,400 seconds to invest today...and the fact that you have chosen to invest a portion of your time in taking this journey with us means a great deal to me.

So thank you, Onward Nation.

For our time together today...I am going to step us through what I see as the four seasons each and every business owner needs to recognize in order to successfully navigate their company, employees, and clients through as part of the business’s natural life cycle.

Every business experiences these seasons – no matter what industry and no matter how successful.

And yes, there is some correlation between the seasons we will walk through during today’s discussion and some of the traditional growth models you may have studied in school like Growth-Share Matrix made popular by the Boston Consulting Group.

This is the one with a quadrant – grid layout where a business needs to fit inside one of four boxes. One was labeled Cash Cow, one for Star, one for Question Mark, and one for Dogs.

A business would be classified into one of the quadrants based on their growth rate and market share.

If growth is high and market share was also high...the business would be a star. The opposite of the Star is the Dog quadrant.

I like what the Boston Consulting Group did with the matrix. And it is ideally suited for large corporate entities operating in well-defined industries with easy to calculate market shares.

That is not most business owners, Onward Nation.

It doesn’t fit Predictive ROI and my guess is it doesn’t fit your company either.

And in my opinion, business owners need a practical framework for connecting the seasons of their business into their thought leadership – into their point of view – and how these blend together to form cornerstone content that can be used to move any business forward.

And also recognizing that there should be healthy period of rest in the business.

I will also share some tactical next steps to consider while you and your team are working your way through each season.

How you can continue to nurture and build your nation of true fans, how you can continually refine and clarify your point of view, and how you can prepare your business to move onward to reach that next level of success.

Okay, let’s dive in. Ultimately, there are three main reasons why I wanted to share this with you this morning, Onward Nation.

First...and you may have heard me talk about this before...but I am sick of all the “marketing hyperbole” I hear from digital marketing gurus, business coaches who have never run a business, and consultants who are promising you that their system – if only applied – can give you that coveted 7-figure business.

You just need to download their thing, buy their course, or join their super expensive mastermind.

These gurus are trying to entice you with their get rich quick promises of following their funnel blueprint or this email sequence – just apply this swipe file into your campaigns – and WHAMMO – you too can have a 7-figure business just like they do.

Um, no thank you.

Here’s the reality, Onward Nation...

Of the 28.1 million businesses in the United States...only 4 percent of them ever reach the $1 million a year in sales.

Yep, just 4 percent.

With that said...there are certainly legit experts – those who have truly done it before. But the different is that a true thought leader has a fully transparent body of work that is easy to see.

You can review and scrutinize their track record...and their content is true thought leadership versus a self-aggrandizing YouTube channel.

You can easily see how they have built a business of their own and how they truly work in the trenches with others to help build a client’s company.

Onward Nation, growing a company to $1 million in sales is a big deal – and if it is one of your goals – super awesome! But to get need to remain cognizant of the fact that your business will go through a healthy process of seasons so you can stay focused and ready to deploy your precious resources at the right time – hence the importance of today’s discussion.

Second...I want to help you set expectations on timeline because there is so much glitz and glam surrounding success today that it is really easy to fall into the trap that success can happen overnight.

And even when we logically know and conceptually understand that success takes time and a whole lot of hard work – we can see a business or a celebrity and think, “ did that happen for them so fast?”

Because we fit all about their behind-the-green-curtain backstory – we only see the flashy front of stage. Here...let me give you two quick examples.

Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart are two of the biggest names in entertainment right now – and earners – in Hollywood. So they are great examples of the point I want to make.

With Dwayne, aka The Rock, one of his first starring roles was a movie called The Scorpion King back in 2002...16 years ago, Onward Nation. And before that...he was a professional wrestler from 1996 to 2004.

But...for the better part of 21 years, Dwayne Johnson has been perfecting his craft to the point that he was one of 2017’s highest paid actors earning $65 million.

He has also built a nation of true fans, who flock to see his latest blockbuster when he shares snippets of the film in his daily posts with his 100 million Instagram followers.

The Rock deserves every ounce of his success – it’s fun to watch from the outside looking in – and he is the furthest thing from an overnight success. He is now reaping the harvest of his 20 plus years of sowing.

Or how about Kevin Hart? He has been perfecting his comedy craft since 2001. Kevin was cast as The Rock’s co-star in two recent movies, including the international sensation “Jumanji”.

And not only did the starring roles represent success for Kevin Hart all by themselves...but...they also helped further expand his profile and fan base to where he is now breaking box office records with his current comedy tour entitled, “Irresponsible.”

Kevin and his team sold an unprecedented 500,000 tickets during the first week of opening. And he now has 57 million Instagram followers.

When I look at Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart, I immediately want to know the behind-the-green-curtain of their success...their team...their systems...their practice sessions...the training...the preparation...and all of the hard work...night after night...all the doubt when they must have thought they wouldn’t “make it”.

And yet they kept work through the seasons and they did it for decades. Because they knew that was the price that success required to be paid in order for them to get them to where they are now.

How they persevered.

How they ignored the naysayers.

How they kept pushing.

I respect that level of dedication to their craft and what they wanted to achieve – but interestingly – if I were to interview them for an Onward Nation episode – I suspect they would both say that as good as things are for them right now...they likely feel like they are just getting started.

Both are legit business owners – not just on-screen talent – so watch what they are doing, Onward Nation, and how they are executing every day. It is mastery and discipline at work.

Third...I wanted to walk you through the seasons so you can had a roadmap for building your business in a strategic and thoughtful way.

A blueprint that helps you build a nation of true fans around your point-of-view, around what makes you unique, your thought leadership, and the value you and your team deliver for clients.

Okay, so let’s dive into the four seasons that every business, and every business owner, needs to work through.

Season 1: Get back to basics

In my opinion, this first season is experienced when you need to ignite new growth in your business – and – when you have just reached that next level.

Getting back to the basics, which I believe are re-grouping with your team, skills training, evaluating the resources on your current team and making additions or adjustments, revisiting your point-of-view, how your POV is driving what you earlier defined as your three uniques, and how both are driving your cornerstone content.

As a quick aside, Onward Nation...if you want more detail on POV, three uniques, and how they blend to form your cornerstone content...just go back to Episodes 676 and 659. You will find some good step-by-step detail in both episodes.

So if you just completed a successful business development campaign, launched a new product or service, attended a major trade show and rolled out something innovative – as a result – achieved that next level of your business you are likely now in Season 1.

Versus...continuing to push and push in order to move to yet another level.

Onward Nation, more companies go out of business from indigestion due to too much opportunity versus starvation and not having enough new business to keep them alive.

So if you reached that next level – awesome. Take some time to celebrate and evaluate how you got there by asking yourself some key questions.

Review how your team performed – and more specifically – what skill sets were critical to your success? And do you have enough capacity in that skill going forward?

What value did you deliver to customers?

What feedback did you receive from customers?

What feedback did you receive from vendors?

How many new customers did you take on – and why?

How many customers did you lose – and why?

What about your sales pipeline worked really well and what didn't?

Did your pool of prospects grow and why?

Did you social media ecosphere grow and why?

Or...maybe the reverse is true. Your business has not reached a new level on the upside but instead has reached a new low. Well, the questions we just covered apply for your business, too.

So no matter if you are coming off some massive growth – or some massive struggles – Season 1 is the reset. We all need a reset – to clear away all the clutter and to then focus on renewal and moving forward. It is part of the Law of the Harvest. Just think about that for a second.

Say you are farmer and you just had a record harvest – more corn – more potatoes – more produce than you have every harvested from your fields in the history of your family working the soil for decades.

You put new technology, new tools, and a new team into place the resulting yields we off the charts.

But now the harvest is over. It is time to get back to the basics and prepare for next year’s harvest by working through the same evaluation process I just shared with you.

Or, let’s say you’re the farmer again and you just had the worst yielding harvest ever in the history of your farm.

What do you do?

You get back to the basics and prepare for the next harvest and setting yourself and your team up for success during the next harvest period.

Season 1 is critical to Season is the Law of the Harvest and it is alive and well on the family farm just as it is in your business. You cannot experience massive growth year after year without coming back to Season 1 and renewing...and getting ready for the next harvest.

For Predictive ROI...we recently experienced a leveling teammates...a successful launch of our latest book, Profitable Podcasting – and thank you for all of your support, Onward Nation – I am so very grateful for your helping in making the book so successful...becoming a #1 best seller list in 18 hours was awesome.

We had an excellent Season 4 harvest. And we are not done growing Predictive ROI – but we do need to take a brief pause and realize that we are now in Season 1 so that we can prepare for our next Season 4 harvest.

So this week...Erik Jensen and I – my business partner at Predictive ROI – we met up in Austin, Texas – he flew in from Salt Lake City and I flew in from La Crosse, Wisconsin for five days of business development – meetings with several of our Predictive ROI clients and then Erik and I are also investing 2-1/2 days with our mastermind group that consists of other agencies owners – as part of the Agency Management Institute.

The 12 owners in the mastermind all refer to our group as Velocity – and I absolutely love the owners in the group – and this is the perfect Season 1 activity for Predictive we plan our next iteration of Seasons 2, 3, and 4.

Season 2: Sow your seeds for long-term

Let’s stay with the farmer example as we walk through the other seasons. In Season matter if you just reached a new level of growth in your business...a record are grinding in order to rebuild...Season 2 is all about sowing. Season 2 is about generously sowing the right seeds, in the right amounts, and in the right areas in order for new growth to occur.

According to the Law of the Harvest, we will only reap at the time of harvest what has been sown.

So if we have not been generous in helping clients grow, helping our prospects learn and develop all without some hidden agenda, and to generously share our time with our teammates, then how can we expect that our harvest in Season 4 will be abundant?

In addition, the Law of the Harvest also says that we will reap the same in kind as we sow.

Or, to say that another cannot share small tidbits of your knowledge with your prospects and then expect abundance at the time of harvest. You cannot give pennies and expect dollars at harvest.

But also remember this...the Law of the Harvest also says that you will reap more at harvest than what you sow.

So your generosity with customers, clients, teammates, vendors, and all of your other stakeholders during Season 2 will pay big dividends during your harvest.

So if your business is struggling...should you be financially frugal during Season 2? Yes, absolutely!

That is part of being a good steward. But what you should also do is to creatively find ways to share your wisdom and expertise with your clients and prospects – to sow seeds – to build your list – to share your thought leadership – to guest blog – to write that book you have been wanting to write and share the content for free with your clients as a sneak preview and special thank you.

Build a rockin’ awesome Instagram account – follow Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart – and watch what they are doing – how they let their followers into their lives – they have pulled back the curtain – you can do the same thing with your prospects and clients.

And yes, you don’t have 100 million followers – so what – you have the number of seeds you need for your next harvest. You just need to get out there and sow them.

Season 2 is all about planting your flag – your POV in the hearts and minds of your customers and prospects...and you do that through sowing seeds – as many as you can – through your cornerstone content.

You can do this...I believe in you, Onward Nation.  

Season 3: Tend to the new growth

If you have done the hard work of Season 1 – put the plans in place and have been diligent about sowing the right seeds and in the right amounts during Season will begin to see signs of new growth.

New opportunities will begin to come your way.

New prospects will invite you in to present your services, to share your story, and to discuss how you and your team might be able to add value to what they are trying to accomplish.

You will start to meet prospects at trade shows who come up to you and say, “Hey, I have been listening to your podcast – or watching your YouTube channel – or reading your blog – or – I have been on your email list for a while now – and I really like some of the things you have been sharing and was hoping we would have an opportunity to meet at this show.” about this, “I knew I just had to attend your workshop because every time I turn around with a problem or crisis in my business – there you are – ready to be helpful.” awesome is that, Onward Nation?

And those are all signs of new growth. New opportunities that need to be nurtured – and when that begins to happen – you will know you are firmly planted in Season 3.

It is time for you to water the seeds you have sown, get down on your hands and knees and pull the weeds, gently till the soil to let more air in on the roots, and to prune the growth you are now seeing.

All of this hard work – getting into the trenches with your community – with your audience – with your nation of true fans is critical.

It is the right thing to do in order to remain congruent with the person who just did all of the Season 2 sowing. And, you need to remain congruent with the Law of the Harvest.

If you notice growth and don't water it...or pull the weeds...your new growth will dry out and die.

But oftentimes, I see business owners do the hard work of Season 1 and Season 2 and then expect that the floodgates of the abundant harvest will now come flowing into their business – but that circumvents the law of the harvest.

Nature doesn’t work that, way and you cannot expect that the natural laws that govern relationships will work that way either.  

So respect the process. Season 3 must be followed if you want to have an abundant harvest in Season 4.

Season 4: Harvest and reap what you sowed Season 4 is here. It is time for your book launch, it is time for your product launch, it is time for you to roll out your new service offering, it is time for you to unveil your latest innovation to your sales team at your private event at the industry trade show – something you and your team have worked so hard to achieve...yes!!!

It’s here...THE HARVEST.

And if this is where you are at right now, Onward Nation – congratulations – please know – I am super happy for you.

You didn’t move into Season 4 by accident. You didn’t wake up one day in Season 4 without some serious hard work – so virtual high five – I respect your effort and hope the abundance of your harvest overflows.

Just like the farmer doesn’t wake up one day in early August and say to his team... “You know what I think we ought to do today – let’s go pick some corn!” And then they look out to a field without any corn – covered in weeds – not going to be a good harvest.

But, if the farmer and his or her team have done all of the hard work in Seasons 1, 2, and 3...they should be ready for an abundance harvest. And they also know that as soon as all of the hard work of the harvest is complete...they will immediately move back into Season 1 because the preparation for next year’s harvest begins.

So just like with the Law of the Harvest – the seasons your business experiences will follow a similar pattern.

However, I also want to make sure I clarify that I am not suggesting that the seasons are an annual cycle for your business are they are when we are talking about growing corn.

You may have an abundant harvest in Season 4...move into Season 1 for planning...and then move through Seasons 2 and 3 to prepare for the next harvest...all in a matter of a few short months.

And for your business or the dynamics of your industry – that may be possible. Or, Seasons 1, 2, and 3 may take you a year or two to get through...especially if you are coming off a harvest that did not produce the results you wanted.

You did not receive great feedback from customers.

You realized that you might need to make some adjustments to your team to level up.

You noticed some adjustments to your product or service to make sure it is properly aligned with the cornerstone content you are producing.

Or, you have now realized how important it is to get clear on your POV, your three uniques, and why you should be sharing cornerstone content on a consistent basis to add value during Season 2 – sowing your seeds.

Regardless of what season your business is currently in – please know – being aware of the Law of Harvest can help you move your business through the seasons – and onward to that next level.

I wish you much success during your next harvest, Onward Nation.

So with that said...I again want to say thank you. Thank you for being here and generously sharing your time and all of your feedback so that we can continue to get better each and every day.

We will be back tomorrow with another helpful episode with Jeff Hyman as my guest. I know you will find the conversation with Jeff helpful because shares insights and the economics around recruiting rock stars for your team. You will not want to miss Jeff Hyman.

Okay, Onward Nation – until then – onward with gusto!

Feb 20, 2018

Brandon Steiner is the CEO and Founder of Steiner Sports. Over 30-years ago, he started Steiner Sports with $4,000 and a computer and has grown it to be a leader in the sports memorabilia and marketing industry. Brandon is also a speaker and host of the Unplugged Podcast and the author of two bestselling books, "The Business Playbook" and "You Gotta Have Balls."

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The power of relationships when building your business
  • Why you need to create a lot of chaos and confusion before you can see the clarity in your business
  • The importance of thinking outside the box and having your own thoughts and ideas
  • Why resilience and diligence are two important daily habits
  • How being a good communicator helps others join in your vision
  • Why picking the right customers and clients to sell to is a key to success
  • Why thinking is the hardest work you are going to do in your business
  • How the art of selling is differentiating yourself, adding value, and serving
  • Learning how everything is negotiable in business and in life
  • The importance of being prepared and confident in your abilities

Ways to contact Brandon:


Feb 19, 2018

Today’s episode is going to be different from any other -- in fact -- it is fair to say that today’s episode will be another power installment of How to Do the Hard Right Over the Easy Wrong. I can boldly make such a claim because my guest today is Larry Broughton. Larry is Founder and CEO of broughton HOTELS; Broughton Advisory Group; and Larry is an award-winning entrepreneur & CEO; a best-selling author; keynote speaker; and former U.S. Army Green Beret -- who is committed to helping visionaries, leaders and high-achievers step into the leadership gap. You may also remember Larry and the wisdom he shared during Episodes 18 and 166 of Onward Nation. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all that Larry shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episodes 18 and 166 to your list of vital priorities. You’ll be glad you did.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why entrepreneurship and capitalism are catalysts for positive change in the world
  • Larry Broughton’s new book “VICTORY”: a road map to launching your business
  • Why the American form of capitalism is the best in the world
  • The importance of having a compelling vision when starting a business
  • Why doing research and intel is vital to your businesses success
  • What a competitive set analysis is and why it’s important for your business
  • The need to have a coach or mentor to become a high achiever
  • How to get people to work to their strengths while you celebrate their achievements
  • The importance of setting up systems and operations within your organization
  • The benefits of taking rapid action and executing your business plan

Ways to contact Larry:


Feb 16, 2018

Jim Horan is the founder and president of The One Page Business Plan Company, an experienced Fortune 500 executive, sought after thought leader, advisor to startups, CEOs and their management teams as well as other industry leaders. Seventeen years ago, Jim simplified the business plan to a single page and began a revolution that continues to this day.  Jim’s first book, “The One Page Business Plan for the Creative Entrepreneur” instantly became an Amazon best seller and Inc. Magazine listed the book as one of the Top 10 “Start Your Own Business” books of 2015.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why business is first and foremost about people
  • The purpose of a one page business plan
  • Why the most significant risk to your business is not being understood
  • How a one page business plan helps your business clarify its objectives
  • The importance of professional trade business associations
  • The power of picking up the phone to accelerate your business
  • Why you should not try to sell to people within your network
  • The value of business relationships when building your business
  • When client acquisition becomes easier
  • Listening to your intuition and moving towards things you are attracted to

Ways to contact Jim:


Feb 15, 2018

Ian Lamont is the founder and president of i30 Media Corporation, a media venture specializing in reference materials, technology news, and how-to guides, including the award-winning “IN 30 MINUTES” series of guidebooks and “PRIORITY PAYLOAD REPORT”, the independent newsletter of industrial automation. He is also the creator of the Lean Media framework, which helps creative people and production teams develop media that matters.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why businesses today need to have the DNA of being a media company
  • The importance of building an audience for your brand
  • What issues surround creating media for your business
  • What mistakes businesses make when creating media
  • The benefits of making a list to help tackle your priorities each day
  • The importance of knowing when your most productive time of the day is
  • Why the most critical skills to master are building and selling
  • The need to create media that is going to benefit your customers
  • What mistakes to avoid when creating media for your business
  • Why finding a product or service that people really want or need is critical

Ways to contact Ian:


Feb 14, 2018

Good Morning Onward Nation...I’m Stephen Woessner and welcome to today’s solocast.

As part of my role as host of Onward Nation...and as CEO of Predictive ROI...I am blessed with this amazing opportunity to meet, talk with, and really get to know business owners as well as the critical skills and strategies they have applied to be successful and the lessons they learned along the way. But these owners have also been kind enough to take me behind the green curtain and share their fears, their insecurities, and the constraints to success that they face each and every day.

And the constraints can vary from business owner to business owner...and from industry to industry. But there is one constraint that is universal. There is one constraint that affects all of us. There is one constraint – that no matter who you are – you have faced and have been impacted by it.

So for today’s solocast...I am going to take you on a deep dive into this constraint, and more importantly, how to conquer it and give you a couple of key ingredients so you can push it aside when it begins to impact you and your business.

And the constraint that I am talking about is the Imposter Syndrome.

The Imposter Syndrome isn’t some mystic dark magic voodoo. No, it’s the little voice you hear – a whisper – a question – that asks... “Who do you think you are to attempt something so grand...a goal so big. Who would ever pay for that? What makes you think you can deliver that type of project? Why would that company choose you to work with when they could hire anyone they want?” And the list of bad questions that we ask ourselves each and every day can go on and on.

These questions that we pose to ourselves can cause us to question our competency. The questions might give us pause. The questions – and the ensuing internal dialogue – may cause you to show up to a meeting with an important client in a less confident way. Your employees may wonder if you have what it takes to be the inspiring leader they were hoping for when they joined your team.

And then all of that negative self-talk results in a self-fulfilling prophecy, which is then followed by another round of doubt from the syndrome. “See, aren’t you glad you didn’t get your hopes up? It’s better this way...then there is no disappointment.” And here too...the list can go on and on.

So, the Imposter Syndrome is real. It is unrelenting. It doesn’t get tired. It knows all of your weaknesses and how best to mask your strengths.

The Imposter Syndrome will cheat you out of your destiny. It will cheat you out of the application of your God-given talents. And it will cheat you out of being the owner of the thriving, wonderful, game-changing business you want to lead.

So buckle in Onward Nation. We’re going for a deep dive into the Imposter Syndrome and how you can conquer it...once and for all.

I will share some definitions and some context for when the Imposter Syndrome was discovered, how you can avoid it, as well as several examples of the syndrome hard at work so that you can spot it when it tries to sneak up on you.

My hope is that this discussion will be helpful to you recognizing how the seemingly innocent thoughts, or a minor procrastination, can change the course of your destiny without you even realizing it.


Because your thoughts become your actions -- and your actions -- become your destiny.

So here we go, Onward Nation!

First, the Imposter Syndrome is something we all face. Everyone on Earth faces it -- no matter who they are. It is just that some people have deliberately conditioned themselves to be better than most at pushing themselves past it the fear created by the syndrome.

If you are hearing the term “Imposter Syndrome” for the first time -- let’s start us off with some context and background.

The term Imposter Syndrome was first coined in 1978 by clinical psychologists Dr. Pauline R. Clance and Suzanne Imes and was used when referring to high-achieving individuals marked by an inability to internalize their accomplishments and a persistent fear of being exposed as a “fraud.”

Despite external evidence of their competence, those exhibiting the syndrome remain convinced they are frauds and do not deserve the success they have achieved. In fact, they take their proof of success and pass it off as luck, timing, or as a result of deceiving others into thinking they are more intelligent and competent than they believe themselves to be.

Some studies suggest the impostor syndrome is particularly common among high-achieving women while other studies indicate that men and women are equally affected.

However, based on my experience over the last 20+ years in business, and having interviewed close to 700 of today’s top business owners -- some of the most ambitious super achievers in business today -- I can confidently say -- that the Imposter Syndrome does not have any such gender bias.

It attacks both men and women equally -- so nice of it to do so, right Onward Nation!?!

Now let’s take that definition and break it down into its two core ingredients.

Ingredient #1: the inability to internalize accomplishments and a persistent fear of being exposed as a “fraud.”

Have you ever felt walking into a meeting that you weren’t worthy -- or that you didn’t belong there? Perhaps someone on the selection committee, the award committee, or board of directors had somehow made a mistake in selecting you.

Heck, maybe even some of your colleagues, family members, or friends looked at you and even validated your own suspicions and asked you the seemingly innocent question of “So why did they pick you?”.

I began to learn about the imposter syndrome back in 2009. My first book had been published while I was an academic staff member at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse. My book had become popular with small business owners and several of the UW campuses around the state started asking me to teach a class at their respective campuses. Awesome.

So one day I mentioned the opportunities to a family friend -- that I was headed to UW-Green Bay the next day to teach a class based on my SEO book...and my friend looked at me and said, “Well, why are they having you teach the class? Couldn’t they find someone else locally to teach the class?”

My friend was not trying to be hurtful -- not in the least. But those comments hit me hard. Never mind that my SEO book was #3 in the United States, I had just been interviewed for Inc Magazine and other credibility indicators.

When he asked me that question -- I actually paused and thought about it. “Yeah, why are they hiring me to I good I have what it I the best they could bring in...did I deserve to be there...was I a fraud...did I know what I was talking about?”

Or, there was another instance -- with this same family friend -- when we were having dinner following a recent trip where I was in Washington DC doing what’s called a “Speaker Visit” at Leading Authorities, one of the speakers bureaus that represent me. They had just started representing me and the visit was an opportunity for me to make a brief presentation to showcase my areas of expertise, answer questions, and just help their sales team get to know me a bit better for when any of their clients might need a professional speaker with my skill set.

And during the Q&A portion of the discussion, some members of the Leading Authorities sales team asked me some questions about how best to promote one of their newest clients online -- a very big name -- retired military officer -- and big headlines at the time. Awesome -- I love that kind of Q&A -- and it was really fun sharing some strategies and steps they could use to make a big impact.

So when I got home -- and had dinner with my friend -- I told him about the experience at Leading Authorities and how excited it was. And after I was finished telling the story -- he said to me -- again not trying to be mean to me -- but he asked, “So why did they ask you about how to help?”

A legitimate question...and my answer could have been to share aspects of my experience that were relevant to the conversation in D.C. and specifics about how I helped.

Instead, I let the Imposter Syndrome rise up -- destroy my confidence -- and the end result was that I even began to question why I had been asked. It was a complete 180 in my confidence -- but -- it also proved to be a critical lesson in learning how to defeat the Imposter Syndrome -- and part of your weaponry needs to be protecting your inner circle -- who gets to be inside your circle -- and the information you share or don’t share with members outside your circle.

But, there’s nothing unique or different about these stories. We have all had these experiences of the little voice in our heads whispering -- or in some cases shouting -- “Who do you think you are to do something so amazing?”

That is the Imposter Syndrome, Onward Nation and it is likely holding you back -- it is rearing its ugly head in the form of fear -- and you need to push it aside so it doesn’t block your progress in moving forward.

Here’s the reality...high-performers work hard to prevent people from discovering they are "impostors." This hard work often leads to more praise and success, which perpetuates the impostor feelings and fears of being "found out." The "impostor" may feel they need to work two or three times as hard, to over-prepare, tinker, and obsess over details. This can lead to burnout and sleep deprivation.

I have felt that way before. With each new interview, success quote, media feature that I received from my books -- I would think -- goodness -- did I deserve to be there? YES -- but it took me a long time to believe it -- and I still wrestle with it today.

Ingredient #2: the “imposter” takes the proof of success and passes it off as luck, timing, or as a result of deceiving others into thinking they are more intelligent and competent than they believe themselves to be

Has your business ever gone through a growth spurt and you wondered why?

Have you ever looked around your office and suddenly realized you have some amazing people working for you, looking to you for leadership, and you cannot figure out what they see in you?

Have you ever felt uncomfortable heading into a presentation with a new client and you wonder why they invited you to the table?

Or, in a personal situation -- have you ever felt like you married up -- that your husband or wife -- was not only your better half -- but completely out of your league?

Why do we ask ourselves such losey and unfair questions?

And here’s the important point that I really want you to get, Onward Nation. When you ask yourself “How on earth were we able to hire such amazing employees? Don’t they know that we don’t know what in the world we’re doing?” -- your brain does a funny gives you an answer.

Your brain doesn’t want to make you out to be a liar -- so it gives you the answer to fit your story.

You start hearing things like… “Yeah, boy, you really pulled the wool over their eyes on that one. Hope Becky doesn’t figure it out -- because if she leaves -- then Tom is sure to leave, too.”

Or, “Why did client X invite us here? We don’t really have a shot at winning this pitch, do we?”

And then answer you get back might be something like, “Nope, we have no chance of winning -- especially if they knew all about the mistakes we made just last week on Client Z’s account. We are lucky to have kept Client Z -- hope X doesn’t ask for references. Maybe we ought to back out of the process now.”

What nonsense. The reality is that you were invited into the evaluation process because you have a stellar network -- perhaps stellar credentials -- and you deserve to be at the table. The voice on your shoulder -- the voice whispering in your ear -- is the imposter syndrome.

And we all deal with it.

It doesn’t matter who you are thinking of right now...Tim Ferriss has dealt with it...Joel Osteen has dealt with...all of the incredible business leaders that grace the covers of SUCCESS Magazine, Inc, Fast Company deal with it.

Heck, I struggle with it, too… “I think to myself all the time -- I can’t invite that person to be a guest on my show -- they’ll for sure say no!”

Good grief! Why do we do this ourselves, Onward Nation?

Every business owner -- every political leader -- every leader throughout history has dealt with this. George Washington did not feel he was worthy to be this country’s first president. No one is immune from the Imposter Syndrome. But if you know that -- you can defeat this secret enemy.

But here’s what is unique -- and what is special -- is when someone stares into the face of potential rejection -- faces their fear and they do it anyway.

And to quote the rock solid awesome words of Dr. Marcie Beigel -- a three-time guest of Onward Nation...she said to me in her first encore interview in Episode 144 said to me, “ scared, and then do it anyway!”

Wow...I loved that.

Because it is oftentimes fear -- which is another way of describing the imposter syndrome -- it is fear that gets in your way more than anything else. You -- you, Onward Nation...are your business’s biggest constraint.

Not the market, not your lack of customers, not your pricing, not your product is you. You -- as the leader -- as the business owner -- you set the pace and tempo of your company -- either fast or slow -- you do.

So I asked Dr. Marcie during that special encore interview to share how business owners can reach that elusive next level? She was kind enough to map it out into three simple steps.

  1. Get clear on what the next level is — how will you know when you’re there?
  2. Walk through your fear -- make a plan -- and just do it
  3. Find a mentor -- we learn best from the people who have been there

And let’s look at all three of these.

First...get clear on what the next level is. Well, if the imposter syndrome (aka FEAR) is making you believe that you are not even worthy of your current level of success -- how could you possibly believe that you are worthy of more? So how could you define what the next level looks like?

Great question, right?

Instead, perhaps you need to spend some time in gratitude being thankful for what you have already accomplished -- consciously acknowledging that what you have achieved was deserved because you worked hard to get there and you applied your God-given gifts and talents to get there -- and now -- to realize your full potential -- it is time to leap off your current plateau and move onward to that next level -- and you deserve to be at the next level -- because you’re an expert.

But the first step is to give yourself permission to define that next level so you know when you and your business have arrived. scared about the next level...and do it anyway. Set your fear aside -- what is the worst that could happen? Prospective customers could say no. You might make a bad decision and lose some money?

An employee or a group of employees may disagree in how you’re redirecting the company and could decide to leave.


Are any of these life-threatening situations? Did anyone die? No. And like Mike Stromsoe taught us in episode 24 of Onward Nation -- did anyone die, no? then move on!

Stopping making each decision more -- or bigger -- than it has to be.

Just make a decision...then move on. It doesn’t have to be more complicated than that.

So, Onward Nation, just be scared -- and then do it anyway.

And lastly...find a mentor to learn from. More specifically -- find a mentor or group of mentors who are all moving at a pace and tempo that is faster than you.

I know I say this a lot -- but only because it is critically important. It matters who you spend your time with -- and if you spend your time with people who are moving at your current pace -- or slower -- those people may make you feel comfortable to be around -- they may not challenge you -- they may not push you or ask you tough questions -- and it is easy to relax and unwind.

But guard yourself -- if you don’t protect your time -- you will slow down as a result.


Because as Coach John Wooden once said, you will never outperform your circle. You won’t -- it is just human nature.

So you need to make sure the mentors you select are operating at a completely different level than you are currently at -- that you reach -- that you stretch -- that you get yourself into a group of people where you don’t currently belong. And then you work like crazy to not get left behind -- and in the process -- you will expand and grow -- and leap off your current plateau onto that next rung.

And as Scott McKain recently taught me, “Stephen, you cannot reach that next rung, unless you are willing to let go of the current one you are hanging on to.”

Very wise words, Onward Nation.

Please recognize the imposter syndrome for what it is nothing more than fear. Please also know that we all deal with are not different because you feel are not uniquely burdened or yoked.

But what can make you unique and distinctive is your ability to refuse the status quo and to push past your fear -- to shove the imposter syndrome aside and to not let yourself be your own limitation.

You were meant for greatness. You are a child of the most high God. You are instilled with an infinite abundance of talent and gifts. Please don’t let something so small as fear limit all you were meant to be.

So with that said...

I want to say thank you for taking the time to be here with me today. It is an honor to have you here -- thank you for tuning in -- your time is sacred and I am delighted you chose this episode to be what you listen to, study, and take with you on your morning run, or maybe Onward Nation has become part of your daily commute, or in some other way has become part of your morning routine.

However our daily podcast fits into your daily routine -- I want you to know how much I appreciate you sharing some of your invaluable 86,400 seconds you have in your day with me and the strategies we learn and share each day from today’s top business owners.

And please continue to let me know what you think of Onward Nation...good or bad...I always want your feedback. My direct email address is -- and yes -- that is my actual Inbox. No fancy filters or filing system and I read and reply to every single email.

So please let me know how you think we are doing. I look forward to hearing from you.

We will be back tomorrow with an interview with Ian Lamont. I think you will find Ian helpful because we explored how today’s successful companies – at their core – as part of their DNA – have became media companies and how this transformation is likely to continue. My guess is you will find our conversation thought-provoking as I did – it is well worth your time.   

Until then, onward with gusto!


Feb 13, 2018

Patrick Ewers is an executive coach and the founder of Mindmaven, a company that helps professionals generate more opportunities by introducing experience-based relationship management -- and -- helps them drive growth by increasing their overall mindshare within their network. He was called Silicon Valley’s top relationship management expert by Forbes and was also one of LinkedIn’s earliest team members, where he was responsible for launching and building up “LinkedIn for Groups.”

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The story of how Patrick ended up at LinkedIn so early in the life of the company
  • The four life themes that came to Patrick while meditating on a Buddhist retreat that led him to starting his business Mindmaven
  • Why what’s common to you isn’t always common for everyone else and why you need to focus on that to deliver greatness to the world
  • Positive alacrity: delivering micro-experiences to others that have a profoundly uplifting impact
  • Why good things happen when you do counterintuitive things (which Patrick learned firsthand when he left LinkedIn)
  • Spending 10-20% of your time to focus on your relationships and how that will dramatically impact your business
  • Why staying top of mind is a great strategy to drive referrals
  • Building a list of 30 people called “legends” and emailing one a day to really build that connection over time
  • The Five Freebies: Five ways to interact with people with who you already have a relationship in a way that you don’t have to think a lot about what you write

Ways to contact Patrick:


Feb 12, 2018

Robert Glazer is the founder and Managing Director of Acceleration Partners and the founder and Chairman of Brand Cycle. He is a serial entrepreneur with an exceptional track record and passion for growing revenue and profits for business-to-consumer based companies. He has extensive experience in the consumer, e-commerce, retail, online marketing, and ad-tech industries—partnering with brands such as Adidas, Reebok, Target, Tiny Prints, and Warby Parker. Robert is a highly sought-after speaker who presents to global audiences and serves as an advisor to high-growth businesses.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Robert’s purpose: finding a better way to do things
  • Acceleration Partners: the top independent affiliate marketing agency in the US
  • Is affiliate marketing right for you?
  • Using The Whole Life Dashboard to set up your morning for success
  • Getting your top priorities checked off as soon as you can each day
  • Focusing on strategy, thinking, and quiet
  • Learning from Player-Coaches: coaches/mentors who have actually done it
  • Vision and prioritization: why these two skills have to go hand in hand for business leaders
  • Chunk it: chipping away at your goals one chunk at a time
  • Figuring out what your core values are and getting rid of everything that doesn’t align with who you are and what your goals are
  • Building a company manifesto so that you attract the right employees (and so the wrong ones decide to leave)
  • Using an alignment strategy so that you the behavior you talk about is the behavior you reward
  • Why great execution is more important than great strategy

Ways to contact Robert:


Feb 9, 2018

Brendon Lundberg is co-founder of Radiant Pain Relief Centres whose vision is to build the safest, most consistently effective, and appealing solution to the epidemic of chronic pain. Combining a mission to change the way chronic pain is treated, Brendon and Dr. David Farley opened Radiant Pain Relief Centres in February 2014 and have plans to open centres in new markets, both nationally and internationally. Previous to founding Radiant Pain Centre, Brendon played key operational and business development roles for two other businesses and was the Director of Sales and Marketing for a medical device start-up.

What you will learn in this episode:

  • Why a Regulation A-Plus Offering might apply to your business
  • How to learn more about the Regulation A-Plus Offering process
  • The importance of having the right mindset
  • The benefits of setting your day with intention
  • How having ambition without the right discipline can lead to being unfocused
  • The importance of building relationships and connecting with people
  • Daily strategy: knowing and applying the key performance measurements that matter
  • Why you should “live into who you want to be”
  • When starting a new venture, don’t wait for it to be perfect, just jump in
  • The importance of surrounding yourself with people who can help you

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Feb 8, 2018

Angelique Rewers is the CEO of The Corporate Agent and her team helps small businesses and self-employed professionals land corporate clients. In four years, she went from the starting gate to being among the top 1 percent of women business owners nationwide and was recently named an Enterprising Woman of the Year by Enterprising Women Magazine. Her groundbreaking INSIDE EDGE global conference has brought entrepreneurs together with major brands like IBM, Intel, HP, PayPal, AT&T, Marriott, Chevron, and Major League Baseball, to help them work together more effectively.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The importance of focusing your energy into what you want to create
  • How business requires us to have a certain degree of inner strength and grit
  • Why it’s all about the speed in which you need to make decisions as a business owner
  • Why you need to have the skill set to navigate the decisions that you make
  • Mastering the skill of critical thinking as a small business owner
  • The joy and success that comes from running straight into challenges
  • The only three problems that you have to overcome in winning clients
  • Why you need to build a business development framework in your business

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