Onward Nation

America's best podcast for learning how today's top business owners Think, Act, and Achieve. Onward Nation is a five-day-a-week podcast hosted by Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI. Business owners share the most influential lessons learned throughout their careers, including insights into their daily habits, their most vital priorities that have contributed to their business and personal success, and the most challenging time or situation that could have devastated or even ruined their businesses or careers. Business owners share their "recipes for success" including those systems they wish they had put into practice inside their business when first starting out. Each episode concludes with guests sharing two or three practical and tactical strategies they would recommend to brand new business owners in order to best ensure success in their new business and careers. Onward Nation provides business owners with the strategies and tactical step-by-step "recipe" that will help anyone make their business more systematic, predictable, measurable, and repeatable.
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Jan 31, 2018

Jennifer Sertl is a business strategist and internationally recognized as an influencer in social media and a thought leader in the emerging field of corporate consciousness. She is president and founder of Agility3R, a leadership development company dedicated to strengthening strategic skills and helping leaders become more resilient, responsive, and reflective. She is also co-author of the book, “Strategy Leadership and the Soul.”

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The importance of giving frontline people the tools that they need to create value for the customer
  • Why business isn’t about customer acquisition, but about employee delight
  • How our competitive advantage is not about our skill set, but rather how well we read our environment and how we use that to act
  • Thinking and acting globally
  • Why everyone should have an 18-month calendar
  • How being afraid to choose can dilute your value proposition
  • Why leaders today really need to be versed in social
  • The value that comes from spending time with people who you respect the most

How best to connect with Jennifer:



Jan 30, 2018

Bernie Swain is the founder of the Washington Speakers Bureau, a lecture agency which represents many prestigious authors, politicians, journalists, athletes, and business leaders. At the firm’s start back in 1980, he began signing every speaker with a handshake -- this proved to be the hallmark of trust that helped accelerate the company’s growth. Years later, Bernie’s roster of speakers would be the greatest in history and the firm still continues its practice of signing speakers on the strength of a handshake. Today, the best of Bernie's fortunes turned out to be the speakers themselves because these remarkable leaders had become his friends and he captured many of their most personal, powerful influences and defining moments in his book, “What Made Me Who I Am.”

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • How an error became a defining moment in Bernie’s career
  • Why passion is so much more important than talent when you’re starting a company on your own
  • Why there are no shortcuts to long term success
  • How a handshake can create an environment of trust and honesty
  • Why Bernie felt compelled to write the book, “What Made Me Who I Am”
  • How turning points in our life define our successes and accomplishments
  • How you earn opportunities by making wise decisions
  • The importance in taking your time to make life decisions
  • Why you need to remember that no matter what you do, you are your brand

How best to connect with Bernie:

Jan 29, 2018

Gordon Tredgold is a business and IT transformation expert who has successfully delivered $100 million programs, run $300 million departments, and led teams of 1,000 staff members for Fortune 100 companies. Gordon is the author of the critically acclaimed book “FAST” and works with enterprises on implementing results-based leadership initiatives to rapidly accelerate growth. You may remember Gordon and the wisdom he shared during Episode 446. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 446 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • How to make writing articles seem a little less daunting
  • The three key components of every article
  • Why context is so important when writing an article
  • As a leader, why it’s about the command that you have rather than the orders that you give
  • How to get everyone on your team to believe that the goal that what you want to achieve is possible
  • The power of starting small and aiming high when it comes to writing a book
  • How complexity kills execution on a team
  • How to create a culture of success
  • The importance of not comparing yourself to anyone else
  • Why you need to start small, celebrate, and just keep going

How best to connect with Gordon:


Jan 26, 2018

Jake Jorgovan is the founder of Lead Cookie, which helps B2B sales teams generate leads through done-for-you LinkedIn prospecting and Outbound Creative which helps consulting companies win their dream clients through custom consulting and done-for-you outreach campaigns. He is also the author of the upcoming book “Win Your Dream Clients.”

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why LinkedIn is such a powerful social network and a great tool for new business development
  • The importance of being consistent with your morning routine
  • The value of writing down your top three wins for the day
  • A dark spot in Jake’s life that forced him to reflect on what he was really good at
  • Why you need to have self-awareness and the ability to recognize your own ignorance
  • Understanding the financials of your business
  • How to get things off your plate that drain energy from you
  • Creating a vision and focus for everyone in the organization
  • Why you need to focus on creating value when starting a business

How best to connect with Jake:



Jan 25, 2018

Tiffany Wojtkiewicz is the Chief Revenue Officer and co-founder of ONEHOPE, a lifestyle brand with a world-class vineyard and winery in the heart of Napa that makes a measurable impact for its charitable partners through its family of brands. She is responsible for all revenue generation channels and accountable for driving integration and alignment between the sales, marketing, and customer support departments. Tiffany has successfully lead the company from $60,000 in sales in 2007 to approximately $25 million in sales in 2017 while experiencing triple digit growth over the last three years.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The two traits you need to help you be successful as an entrepreneur
  • How ONEHOPE is able to make a social impact and give back to the non-profit organizations that they support
  • Why you need to make sure that your product messaging is on point
  • How ONEHOPE’s brand ambassador program viaONEHOPE allows people to raise money locally through in-home wine tasting parties
  • Why it’s important to have a plan and be able to communicate that plan
  • Why everyone in your company should know what your top three goals are at all times
  • The importance of hiring people who are smarter than you
  • The value of having a mentor
  • Why you should always put your customers first

How best to connect with Tiffany:


Jan 24, 2018

Mike O’Krent is the founder of Life Stories Alive, a business specializing in the making personal history “legacy” videos for families. In a life-changing experience, from 1996 through 2000 Mike interviewed Holocaust survivors for Steven Spielberg’s “Survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation”, now the USC Shoah Foundation. It was through that experience that Mike discovered the significance and technique of recording the life stories of loved ones. The business has since expanded its expertise beyond capturing personal histories for families to now include recording the histories of businesses and non-profit organizations. You may remember Mike and the wisdom he shared during Episode 484. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 484 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Why Mike wrote his first book, “A Conversation You’ll Never Forget — A Guide to Capturing a Life Story
  • The value of capturing stories for your business, not just for your loved ones
  • The power of marketing through storytelling
  • The quote that has helped Mike get through the tough times of being an entrepreneur
  • Why you should reconnect with your purpose of why you started your business
  • How telling your life story can help you discover things about yourself that you didn’t even know
  • What Mike calls ‘the chill of the sigh’ and how it helps him define success
  • Finding your ‘why’
  • How all successful business owners have a team to help them
  • Why you need to make it about the prospective customer or client — not about you
  • Why listening intently is the biggest skill you can ever have

How best to connect with Mike:


Jan 23, 2018

Lee Caraher started Double Forte in 2002 as a new kind of communications firm designed to provide the best service in the business. Lee has managed multiple offices and hundreds of people of all ages and was named in the 40 under 40 by PRWEEK Magazine. She holds a bachelor’s degree in medieval history — which she finds useful every day. You may also remember Lee and the wisdom she shared during episodes 180, 269, and 523 of Onward Nation. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all that Lee shared during our earlier interviews...I highly encourage you to add episodes 180 and 523 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • How workplace issues have exploded in the media in 2017 and how that’s created a cultural shift
  • How women are getting more comfortable in exerting themselves in the workplace
  • How harassment cases will continue to come forward in 2018
  • How a business owner can prepare for being accused of gender bias, unequal pay or harassment
  • Why you need to have sustainability built into your business
  • The many things that can be done to ensure that everyone is listened to equally, regardless of gender
  • The importance of admitting a mistake and committing to fixing it
  • Why you need to have a communication plan in place to deal with harassment happening within your company
  • Why and how to get rid of harassment happening within your company
  • Why it’s vital to talk to your employees about workplace issues

How best to connect with Lee:


Jan 22, 2018

Chris Dayley is passionate about helping businesses learn what their users want on their website through psychology based testing and analytics. He started his conversion optimization agency, Dayley Conversion, in 2014, which he later merged with Disruptive Advertising, where he currently works as vice president of site testing and optimization. You may remember Chris and the wisdom he shared during Episode 457. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 457 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The six major areas that typically have the biggest impact on conversion rates
  • Some recurring pain points that business owners experience when it comes to scaling
  • The power of holding people accountable and doing so in an environment where they still feel enabled to succeed
  • Why it’s good for businesses at any stage to look back and feel good about the progress that they’ve made
  • How most people suffer from some degree of fear and procrastination
  • Defining success by determining what brings value to your life
  • Being in control of your own happiness
  • The value of finding and working with people who will continually challenge you
  • Knowing your business well enough that you can answer any question presented to you
  • The importance of challenging your assumptions

How best to connect with Chris:


Jan 19, 2018

Fabiola Hesslein is the co-founder and CEO of Tryon Entertainment. For over 25 years, she has led a rewarding career as a multi-faceted entertainer, having graced the stage with global artists that include Michael Jackson, Pink, Marc Anthony, Usher, and has appeared on various programs including Saturday Night Light and The View. With a degree in business, cultivated talent, and a progressive mindset, Fabiola not only provides her creative expertise but a hands-on approach and a top-notch team for all entertainment and production needs big or small.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Fabiola’s transition from show business to becoming a business owner of a full-scale production company
  • The power of waking up with a sense of gratitude
  • The value of creating a to-do list
  • Investing in proactively marketing your business
  • Why communication is such a critical skill to master
  • A valuable lesson learned about over-delivering to your clients
  • Why you need to have a strong support system in place
  • Focusing on innovation and what makes you unique
  • The importance of having high standards with your work

How best to connect with Fabiola:


Jan 18, 2018

Renee Wang is the CEO and Co-Founder of CastBox, the global leading spoken audio platform pioneering in-audio search to deliver contextual recommendations for listeners of podcasts, on-demand radio, and audio books.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The story behind how Renee raised money for her startup, CastBox
  • How CastBox’s audio search engine feature works
  • Using Google Calendar and Google Keep to stay focused and prepared
  • The power of reflecting on things you can improve on
  • The top three skills that business owners need in order to thrive today: people, money, and direction
  • A lesson that Renee learned from one of her mentors on becoming a thought leader
  • How globalization is becoming more and more important
  • Why you should never give up as a business owner
  • The importance of building strong team that you can trust

How best to connect with Renee:


Jan 17, 2018

Wendy Keller is an award-winning former journalist, a respected literary agent, an author, speaker and acclaimed book marketing consultant. She has sold nearly 2,000 rights deals worldwide including 16 New York Times Bestsellers and 9 international bestsellers. She got her first job as a newspaper reporter as a 16-year-old college freshman. Since then, Wendy worked for PR Newswire; the Knight-Ridder newspaper chain; as managing editor of Dateline magazine.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • What an agent does
  • Why you need an agent in order to get a deal with a publisher
  • Being clear on your outcome before committing to writing a book
  • What a platform is and why you need to build one if you want to write a book
  • Working with a publisher vs. self publishing
  • Different scenarios where self publishing might be your best option
  • Strategies for success when considering writing a book
  • Why you need something to differentiate yourself from everyone else
  • The top things that you should be doing to build your platform

How best to connect with Wendy:


Jan 16, 2018

Gal Ratner is an award winning technology veteran and the co-founder and CEO of ShopSnap, a modern e-commerce platform, and the founder and CEO of Inverted Software, a consulting firm in Los Angeles. His designs are responsible for powering Fortune 500 companies in multiple industries. You may remember Gal and the wisdom he shared during Episode 370. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 370 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The big market need right for increasing conversion rate
  • How artificial intelligence is going to add value to both business owners and consumers
  • The strategy that Gal uses to help him keep a focused mindset throughout the day
  • The importance of defining small successes
  • The value of caring about other people’s successes before yours
  • Why Gal believes so strongly in the law of attraction
  • Why a team player is more important than an ‘A’ player
  • The three key factors that contribute to being a good mentor
  • Why you need to know how to tell your company’s story
  • Why you need to determine your company’s tipping point
  • Finding creative ways to get more out of your existing customers

How best to connect with Gal:


Jan 15, 2018

Jeff Kreisler is a Princeton-educated lawyer turned author, speaker, pundit, comedian, and advocate for behavioral science. He uses humor and research to understand, explain and change the world. Winner of the Bill Hicks Spirit Award for Thought Provoking Comedy, he writes for TV, politicians and CEOs, shares insights and wit on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, SiriusXM, and tours most of this planet. Jeff is the co-author of the new book, “Dollars and Sense: How We Misthink Money and How to Spend Smarter.”

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The story behind the book that Jeff co-authored with Dan Ariely, “Dollars and Sense”
  • How we think improperly about money
  • The shortcuts we commonly use to determine the value of something
  • Why a healthy dose of irrational confidence is required in creative and freelance work
  • The importance of mastering good communication
  • The value of having a point of view or vision
  • How emotions come into play in organizational and personal decision making
  • Why you need to acknowledge fear and the impact it has on you
  • Why you need to be aware of sunk costs

How best to connect with Jeff:



Jan 12, 2018

Julie Broad is an Amazon Overall #1 Best Selling Author, an International Book Award Winner, and a recipient of the Beverly Hills Book Award for Best Sales book. Her latest venture, Book Launchers, helps entrepreneurs and professionals build their brand and boost their business by writing, publishing, and selling a top quality book. You may remember Julie and the wisdom she shared during Episode 350. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all she shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 350 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The major benefits that writing a book can provide to a business owner
  • Why you need to write a book if you want to be a paid speaker
  • Why communication -- both spoken and written-- is critical
  • Common obstacles that a business owner may encounter in not being able to write a book
  • The power that comes from defining yourself
  • The process that a business owner needs to be prepared for to work through writing a book
  • Why it’s vital to have an outline and plan for a book before writing it
  • How to easily double the sales of your book
  • The metrics to use to determine a strong book launch
  • Why the vast majority of business owners should not pursue a traditional publishing deal
  • The importance of taking small improvements daily

How best to connect with Julie:


Jan 11, 2018

David Mattson is the CEO and President of Sandler Training, he oversees the corporate direction and strategy for Sandler’s global operations including sales, marketing, consulting, alliances and support. Under David’s leadership, the Sandler organization expanded domestically and internationally to over 250 offices in 27 countries around the world. David is a Wall Street Journal and BusinessWeek bestselling author. You may remember David and the wisdom he shared during Episode 469. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 469 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • What micro-learning is and what it consists of
  • The new way to send company-side messages
  • Why you shouldn’t rest on your past successes, but rather continually push forward
  • The importance of sharing what success means to you with your team
  • The three questions to ask yourself if you don’t hit your goals
  • Why you need to separate role failure from self concept
  • Why you need to find people for your team who are where you want to be
  • The difference between mentorship, training and coaching
  • How to avoid creating a culture of learned helplessness
  • Determining if you want a tribe and the purpose behind having it
  • The value in building and training your management team

How best to connect with David:

Jan 10, 2018

Monetizing Your Content, with Stephen Woessner

Good Morning Onward Nation – I’m Stephen Woessner and my hope for you is that 2018 has started off with renewed momentum and velocity in your business.

And that you have been able to take time to invest in planning and getting clear on what you most want to accomplish in 2018 – your most vital priorities.

The days between Christmas and New Year's are my favorite of the year because of the opportunities to spend time with family and friends, to truly unplug, to think, to pray, and to journal.

And this year...I was able to get the time and space that I needed to think deeply and work through my vision for Predictive ROI in 2018.

How we are going to grow our team...where we are going to invest our time, talent, and resources...and my Predictive ROI leadership team and I even identified several bold, new initiatives that we will tackle in 2018.

We also zeroed in on how we will add greater value to the clients we have the honor of serving each day at Predictive ROI.

I also invested time mapping out the practical and tactical lessons I want to share with you, Onward Nation, during the 258 episodes we will air in 2018.

We are hard at work in raising the bar in our business – because we want you to raise the standard of what you expect from us each and every day.

In of the ways of the ways we believe we can be of even greater service and value to you also aligns with one of the bold and new initiatives we plan to tackle.

Launching a YouTube series. Now, if you just rolled your eyes at the thought of yet another YouTube series...I am actually with you on that...and that was one of the main reasons we have not launched a series sooner.

The last thing that business owners need is another self-aggrandizing, reality TV style series that is packed full of drama, busy work, and very light on practical and tactical knowledge that can be applied.

Instead...our commitment is to launch a video series that serves as an extension of our Onward Nation podcast...that documents – visually – and in precise detail -- the stories of successful business owners in 2018 and beyond will be the ones who are no longer looking at marketing through the wrong end of the lens – instead – their marketing goes beyond generating new clients and has become an actual revenue stream for their core business...a true profit center.

The business owners we will introduce you to have transformed their company’s marketing from an expense on the P&L to a profit center by getting very intentional in three essential areas.

First...they got really clear and defined their distinctive point of view – so clear that they created differentiation for themselves in the process, and with it, they gave themselves the ability to charge a premium price for their service offering.

Let’s call this their POV for short. The POVs we introduce you to will be bold, some even provocative, but they all add value to the core business by attracting attention of the audience the business is focused on serving.

Second...we will introduce you to business owners who have made a commitment to creating strategic, high-quality cornerstone content on a consistent schedule – all designed to cement their POV into the hearts and minds of the people who are following them today – and – their content was good enough to attract the attention of new their audience grew.

Third...they were able to monetize their content so that their marketing became a revenue stream. And I am not talking about selling an info course to your email list.

But what I am talking about is attracting enough people into your audience – building a nation of true fans that love you so much that you also attract the attention of third party brands who may want to pay you to get in front of your audience with your endorsement.

That’s just the tip of the iceberg but that is what can happen when you begin thinking of your content as a service to your audience and you begin thinking of you and your business as a media company.

So...I am really excited to bring you lessons from business owners who are doing this successfully so you can take and apply the lessons into your business.

We are shooting a lot of video interviews and back stories in Walt Disney World; New York City; Austin, Texas; Providence, Rhode Island, and locations in between.

The series will likely launch on YouTube in late March or early April. And I look forward to your feedback once we launch it so we can make it even better and more helpful for you.

I will keep you posted on the launch. for today’s lesson...let’s go back to how business owners look at marketing, and how if we shift our mindset, we can proactively transform our marketing into a profit center not just a lead generating activity.

And I will share with you several powerful examples of business owners whose marketing efforts are not only opening up new opportunities with customers – but they are being paid to produce content...they have truly monetized their content.

Sound good? Okay...let’s dive in.

In my opinion, most business owners look at their own marketing through the wrong end of the lens. Meaning...they evaluate the success of their marketing efforts solely through vital metrics like website traffic, email optins, click through rates, conversion rates, customer acquisition cost, lifetime value of a customer, retention rates, and so forth.

All of these metrics are definitely important for evaluating the health of your sales pipeline and your business development strategy for converting leads into sales.

But there can be more – a lot more as it relates to your marketing’s ability to generate revenue.

Onward Nation, thanks to the democratization of media channel thanks to social media, email, podcasting, YouTube, and the myriad of other channels, today’s top business owners are now seeing themselves as media companies.

When I interviewed Gary Vaynerchuk back in September of 2013...he and I talked about how every company – every business owner needs to think of themselves as a “media company.”

And that bold statement is now taking hold – and today’s top business owners are making what may have seemed unrealistic to many several years ago to becoming a critical component within a company’s marketing strategy.

So, Onward Nation...if you execute properly – and by that I mean create high quality content, which I will define more clearly here in just a minute – and you share that content across multiple channels – and build an engaged audience across those channels...then you have successful taken your first steps to becoming a media company where the content you produce can generate revenue.

How can the content by itself generate revenue?

Because there will be other brands who may also want to get in front of that audience...and are willing to pay for that access.

When that as the business owner now have the best of both worlds. You have an audience that loves you and what your company does...and you can generate leads and sales to support your core business from your audience. Awesome.

And, you have attracted an audience that other companies will pay you to access and get in front of...and now the content you are creating as part of your marketing strategy also generates revenue.

But in order to be successful in monetizing your first need to produce content that is worthy of monetization.

So what makes content worthy of monetization? In my opinion, there are two main ingredients to the worthiness recipe:

  1. That the content you are producing is valuable and helpful to your current audience -- and – it is valuable enough that it attracts to new people into your community so your audience grows
  2. And you are not a one-trick pony. That you are producing quality content, sharing it across multiple channels, and you have created “media properties” because having the properties is what makes your more “sponsorable.”

And becoming sponsorable is something I learned from our incredible guest, Linda Hollander in Episode 383 of Onward Nation. I encourage you to go back to Episode 383 to learn more about her recipe for helping business owners attract annual sponsorships of $10,000 to $100,000 – she shares the recipe in full transparency. let’s dive a bit deeper into each ingredient.

Here’s ingredient #1...does your content provide helpful, practical, and tactical advice and recommendations that when someone finishes listening, reading, or watching that they can go implement something?

Are they smarter as a result of what you shared?

Can they provide more value to their customers because of the time they invested in your content?

Are they somehow able to move their business onward to that next level?

If yes...then awesome.

What this world doesn’t need is more yacking into a microphone or having a video camera follow you around an airport, drama, and drawing attention to yourself...none of that self-aggrandizing content adds value to your audience.

So...get your plan together.

Maybe it's a top-rated podcast, a video series on YouTube, maybe you want to write a book, or write long form articles for LinkedIn or in the media, maybe you have a passion to speak on stage, or host webinars, or a combination of these channels...whatever your passion is...create helpful, valuable content around that topic, and over time, you will build an audience.

And as Dorie Clark shared with me during our encore interview in Episode 628... at the end of the day creating content — whether it’s a book — a podcast — or even a blog — showcases what you know.

Dorie said to me, “Stephen, business owners need to focus on content creation. People always think, ‘Oh, there are so many blogs! There are so many podcasts!’ The truth is, too few people are leveraging the power of content creation because we think about content the wrong way. Content creation is not about how many people view your article. The goal of content creation is to create a piece that shows your credibility and makes it easier for a prospect to say ‘yes’ to working with you.”

Dorie’s right.

When you create a piece of content, Onward Nation, the number of people who see it doesn’t matter. What matters is whether or not you make the next sale — and it’s much more likely that you are able to do that when you can point a prospect to a piece of content that shows off how knowledgeable and credible you are.

And all of that credibility and expertise helps you build an audience, which leads up into the second ingredient in the recipe of creating content that is worthy of monetization.

Here’s ingredient #2: Multiple channels and properties to become more sponsorable

Okay, Onward Nation – it isn’t enough to have great content. And it isn’t enough to consistently produce great content. Today’s top business owners are consistently creating great content...sharing it across multiple platforms...and then slicing and dicing the content into multiple media properties to increase their “sponsorability.”

For example...let’s say you host your podcast. Awesome. Some additional opportunities to consider would be to take the transcripts from three of your very best interviews with influential thought leaders and use the content to create an eBook with an introductory letter from you on the inside cover.

Now you have an additional asset that your audience will find helpful – and – you have an additional asset a sponsor may want to be part of for a fee. One of our Predictive ROI clients just sold a $12,000 sponsorship of his podcast to one of his vendors who also wanted to get in front of his audience – and – our client sold a $10,400 sponsorship to two other vendors for an eBook.

Our team took 10 of his interviews...created an eBook that distilled the 10 best lessons from the interviews into an actionable plan...and our client sold the sponsorship of the eBook to the two vendors for $5,200 each.

Or, say you teach workshops and you attract attendees from around the country. At your next workshop...record the entire event on video...the actual teaching sessions...the behind the scenes side conversations...the Q&A...the social functions if there is a dinner or reception.

Record all of it.

You then cut up the video and it becomes what you need to launch a video series on YouTube – and then you sell sponsorship of your YouTube channel to one of your vendors.

And you transcribe the audio files from the entire workshop and the content can be transformed into webinar series that is sponsorable...or a book that is sponsorable...or podcast that is sponsorable.

Or, say you are a software consultant and represent a number of different software vendors. What if you were to host your own podcast and your guest list was comprised of the top prospects for the software companies you represent? You then use your podcast as what I like to call, The Trojan Horse of Sales...because your podcast becomes your “All Access Pass” to your top prospects.

They want to be a guest on your show...and you go to one of your vendors...and sell them the opportunity to underwrite or fund the entire program.

They get the get the opportunity to create great content and build your audience...and your guests get exposure and the ability to share their thought leadership.

A very solid win-win-win.

You can go back to Episode 600 where I broke down the recipe for the Trojan Horse of Sales step-by-step.

The final example I would like for you to take some time to consider is what Jay Baer, our outstanding guest for Episode 305, has done with his company, Convince and Convert.

Jay is New York Times best selling author, has built a thriving consultancy in Convince and Convert, but they have also created a division of the company entitled Convince and Convert Media.

Because Jay and his team have been able to build a large audience of business owners and marketers, brands who also want to sell to the same audience, now reach out to Jay’s media company to pay for access.

It is an innovative approach. And here is a link to Jay’s media guide as well as the pricing his team charges for the various placements they offer brands.

The key to success here is to not fall into the trap of thinking that you need to have a large audience to be successful in monetizing your content.

You don’t need a million listeners.

You don’t need 500,000 YouTube subscribers.

You don’t.

What you need is high quality content...shared on a consistent basis...with a growing audience who loves you...across multiple channels. In fact...the more narrow, or the more niche, you go with your audience – the better.

Onward Nation, sometimes going narrow is what gives us the ability to create a nation of true fans faster and with less expense.

Yes, it may take you months to make this transition from marketing as lead gen and a cost center to marketing as both...generating new customers and producing content that is “monetizable” – or it may take several years for you to reach this level of traction.

But they key to remember is that it is possible – that you can begin looking at marketing through the correct end of the lens. So set the fear, the apprehension, the concerns aside.

Yes it’s scary – I get that. But when you start, and when you make mistakes, and when you make adjustments, you will also create momentum.

This is a long-term play – but it can’t be – if you don't ever start.

So with that said...I want to say thank you. Thank you for being here...thank you taking some of your invaluable 86,400 seconds you have today and sharing them with me.

Your time and attention are precious to me and I wish you the best of success in 2018.

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Jan 9, 2018

Randy Tate is the CEO of Flipping Wall Street -- the world’s first and fully automated stock trading platform. In 2001, he started and developed Game Day Athletics, an athletic apparel company, and grew revenues to $5 million before selling the business to the publicly-traded sporting goods company Sports Chalet in 2007. Randy has led small business education and training for InfusionSoft and has spoken to small business owners on stages throughout the world about growth, sales, marketing, and investment strategies.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • A platform that was built for the average investor that will allow them to preserve, protect and grow their wealth — fully automated
  • The myths that we’re fed from Wall Street that we’re led to believe
  • The power of recognizing someone on your team every day
  • The benefits of putting together a great team and culture
  • The importance of doing your paperwork
  • The biggest thing that Randy sees people fail at when it comes to partnering with someone
  • Why it’s critical to track your numbers daily and weekly
  • How you’re only as strong as your team
  • Why you need to understand that we are all unique observers
  • Why you need to stop being right and be genuinely curious instead

How best to connect with Randy:


Jan 8, 2018

Mike Giannulis is the owner of Pixx Marketing, which specializes in lead generation for professional services and information businesses. He’s a serial entrepreneur, speaker, trainer, copywriter, and a real marketing guru. His campaigns have generated millions of dollars in revenue across multiple industries during the last 12-years. His companies are on pace to generate $25 million in revenue over the next 12-months.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • What attracted Mike into business
  • Why it’s important to increasingly charge more for your services
  • How pricing is really a brand strategy
  • The difference between the front-end and back-end of a sale
  • How higher volume can lead to a lower conversion rate when you offer something for free
  • Why you need to be able to write converting ads & copy
  • The value of getting better at presenting what you’re selling
  • Why you need to make sure that your product/service fixes a problem
  • The importance of continuing to take action no matter what happens

How best to connect with Mike:



Jan 5, 2018

Jeffrey Gitomer is an international sales trainer, world-renowned keynote speaker and #1 best-selling author of 13 books, including the New York Times best sellers The Sales Bible, The Little Red Book of Selling, The Little Black Book of Connections, and the Little Gold Book of YES! Attitude. He helped create Outstand, the first CRM program that actually helps salespeople MAKE SALES and he developed The Gitomer Learning Academy — an interactive sales training and personal development platform that is designed to evaluate, educate, help you understand, and reinforce your learning.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • Creating a reputation based on value
  • Building your online platform presence
  • A formula that leads up to trust
  • Why you have to be easy to do business with, both online and offline
  • What it really means when a customer says “I’m not interested”
  • Why it’s all about the questions that you ask and the credibility that you build
  • How to create value attraction
  • Why it’s vital to keep up with the times to stay in business
  • A lesson Jeffrey learned from one of his mentors on how hard work makes luck
  • Why attitude and resilience are keys to determining your fate
  • The importance of realizing that you cannot do everything
  • Why you need to treat your employees better than you treat your customers

How best to connect with Jeffrey:



Jan 4, 2018

Ken Rutsky and has spent nearly 25-years in B2B marketing roles, launching the “Intel Inside” broadcast co-op program in 1994 and then the Internet’s first affiliate marketing program, Netscape Now, while at Netscape from 1995 to 1999. Ken also ran network-security marketing at McAfee, where he developed and executed a marketing strategy that grew its web security business from $60 million to nearly $200 million. Today, Ken’s firm helps clients lead their markets. He is also the author of the book, “LAUNCHING TO LEADING: How B2B Market Leaders Create Flash Mobs, Marshal Parades, And Ignite Movements”. You may remember Ken and the wisdom he shared during Episode 458. If you haven’t listened to, studied, and applied all he shared during our first interview...I highly encourage you to add Episode 458 to your list of vital priorities.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • What Ken’s been up to recently and what he’s looking forward to in the coming months
  • How having the ability to tell your story can help with success
  • Why it’s critical to carve out a position in the market that’s unique and valuable to both end customers and investors
  • A space where B2B market leaders can convene and talk about what they do
  • The definition of a Go To Market professional
  • Why you need market, customer, and industry knowledge to drive leadership
  • Why it’s better to lose than not try at all
  • Why you need to be able to let go of some parts of your business to transform to your next phase of growth
  • What the best predictor of performance and success is
  • What business owners can do to become better mentors
  • Strategies to apply if you are interested in starting up a group of industry leaders
  • The importance in staying connected to the “tribe” that you want to be a part of

How best to connect with Ken:

Jan 3, 2018

Russ Perry is the founder of Design Pickle — the #1 flat-rate, on-demand graphic design company in the world. And, he recently finished writing his first book entitled, The Sober Entrepreneur, a personal account of his journey toward living a sober life and creating the business of his dreams.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • How to silence the internet trolls that are trying to hurt your business
  • Building a business that delivers value to clients
  • Overcoming addiction as an entrepreneur
  • Why you need to document your story
  • Where you can get a free copy of Russ’s book The Sober Entrepreneur
  • The daily habits that have contributed to Russ’ success
  • Understanding paid acquisition
  • Why you’re the only one that knows the answers to your questions
  • The best strategies for entrepreneurs to find success

How best to connect with Russ:

Jan 2, 2018

Jeremy Adams is one of Forbes’ &’s Top 30 Entrepreneurs Under 30 and not timid to climb the ladder of ultimate success. Prior to turning 30, he’s launched multiple businesses and helped entrepreneurs with his sales and digital marketing background. Jeremy launched his first startup, Prestige Food Trucks at the age of 22 years old. Jeremy was able to quickly turn Prestige Food Trucks into the world’s leading custom food truck & trailer manufacturer. He then landed multi-truck deals with clients like the U.S. Army, The Salvation Army, Dunkin’ Donuts, Taco Bell and many more. Jeremy was also a co-founding partner of Quantum Media, with Maxwell Finn -- and -- the original Shark from Shark Tank, Kevin Harrington.

What you’ll learn about in this episode:

  • The story of how Prestige Food Trucks got started
  • Why delegation and finding a great team are critical skills that business owners need to master
  • The true definition of owning a business
  • The value that can come from partnering with a competitor
  • Why you need to drop your ego and think abundantly as a business owner
  • The importance of continually learning through self-education
  • Connecting with people who are where you want to be
  • How adding value to a person can help you build good relationships
  • How realizing that no one has everything figured out can help you with your self-confidence
  • Why you need to stay positive and just keep moving forward

How best to connect with Jeremy: